Thanks. Yes, the red one is cherry brandy. The green eyed ones were wintersown from seeds harvested from my yard. I started both Prarie Sun and Irish Eyes years ago, so the resulting seeds produced have produced mutts. They're just seed from open pollinated rudbeckia hirtas.
My ruds sometimes flop over too, usually from heavy storms with heavy rain and strong wind. But lack of sun and/or excess watering can also cause them to flop I think.
Karen
