Mona, I'm sorry but I don't. That's about all I took of the garden in general. But you know who is growing those lupines -- Newyorkrita! She got a bunch last year and they grew really well for her, and maybe she'll chime in and show her pictures. She also has about the best gardens I've seen! Maybe we could get a "Rita's Garden" thread here if she's up to it -- hope hope? That would be a really fantastic way to while away the days until spring emerges...