LILLIAN'S CRAZY ARMS is semi-evergreen too. I didn't realize it, thought it was probably evergreen, but then it died back to the ground just like my dormant SPIDER MIRACLE right next to it did. But now suddenly I see that LILLIAN'S CRAZY ARMS has the most wonderful foliage about 2"-3" tall -- and SPIDER MIRACLE has a couple of little one inch green sticks so far. LCA is about an 8" cluster of thick, wonderful foliage, so healthy and pretty!