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Jan 23, 2020 8:31 AM CST
Name: GoldBeard
Maryland
I love coming on here and constantly learning something new. Currently Im giving it plenty of light to see if it gets darker. I knew it was unstable genetically in that it is a bit of a wild card save for the tanning it does. I'll keep and eye in it but I feel better after reading your post.





Gina1960 said:Something to think about with Anthurium Marie....there was some discussion about this plant over 10 years ago on forums among hybridizers and this is kind of what was tossed around....
Marie is the result of a very long and not totally scientific (as in crosses well documented) breeding line. Its exact parentage is unknown. It is an extremely 'variable' plant because it is felt that there are a lot of chromosomal mismatches (different ploidys from different parents that don't line up) that have caused several morphological variations, including very variable lengths and shapes in leaves, the expression of double spadices, and unusually shaped spathes. It has been noted that while most Pachyneurium anthuriums readily produce pollen and set seeds, at that time at least no one had ever had a 'Marie' set seed and pollen production was very scant and usually sequestered to the extreme lower portion of the spadix. The only real hallmark of Marie is that the leaves should flush reddish in high light, and it can be grown in full sun without burning because it will produce these anthocyanins that help protect the leaves. Kind of like people tan.

Marie was placed into tissue culture back at a time when the TC companies were a lot more interested in plants that were not necessarily patented or trademarked and could be produced as quick sales. They flooded the market and sold very well. Apparently the gentleman who hybridized it never registered Marie as a cultivar, so no one is even certain how to write the name. Placing it into quotation marks 'Marie' generally means it is a registered cultivar. Using a small 'x' in front of Marie with no quotation marks would indicate it was a species (kind of like the ALocasia x amazonica fiasco...amazonica is not a species it is a hybrid and this designation is totally wrong the way it is written). Since to the knowledge of everyone at that time it was never registered, patented or trademarked, everyone just felt it was best to just write it 'Anthurium Marie'.

So the fact that yours, @GoldBeardThePirate is ruffled more does not mean that it is NOT a Marie. Mine is also kind of ruffly and there are many documented photos of this trait in the huge pool of Marie's. Some have pointy ends, some not so much. Mine is kind of being shaded out by another huge plant that has grown to overshadow it, but it has in the past had leaves that were so dark they were maroon. So I am relatively sure its Marie. Also, I got it about 100 years ago LOL when they were very, VERY common

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