Well I enjoyed reading this tread even if old. So maybe some of the hybridizers on here could comment of some of the new breakthroughs now that it is 2020. I would love to contribute with some of the breakthroughs I have make with my three year effort, but I have found three years is really just enough time to start learning what it is all about. I would love for Char to show some of her accomplishments, being Sculpted Relief is one of my favorites, and she had developed some very showy Sculpted Cristates too I think, those surely are a new development I would think.