PT can be rough. My Pt guy told me that slow easy pain is to be expected with PT, but never hard fast pain. When that happens someone is doing something wrong. I told mine that he was sadistic and he just gave me that little boy smile and and said "Who me???". I love the group we've used for the last 4 years. Great folks and very good. It's sure nice to finally find some medical folks that really care about you.