Remember the difference in climate. Ghio is in a microclimate even for CA. doesn;t have anything to do with the bubble ruffles, just the background of the cultivar. A friend gets his grab bag at the end of the year. He doesn't send just his own plants. always finds something which is nice. I memtioned 'Hopeless romantic' because it did so well in the north. We don't buy many TBs of anyones nowdays because of space, but order them for the club auction.