Ditto to what Paul said! and I do have to get Nobel Gesture, I just wasn't that excited over the picture in the catalog, but man it's a Grab you flower. My Legerdmain didn't get those little speckles on it, wonder if that will come later, I like those. My Jazz Era didn't bloom this year, but should next year. I like that one a lot too. I hope these guys have mentored an upstart who can carry on their work. Paul Black has helped Tom Johnson get a good start. It would be great to have their work carried on by someone after they are too old to do the work. I'm sure though, that others will be using their flowers in their crosses for a long time to come.