I bought some roses from the J&P red tag sale and the Edmunds' half-price sale. The J&P roses arrived today, four bare-root roses in a box with a little piece of plastic covering them. Nothing else. They are dry, dry, dry as a bone and loaded with black canes. They're not the worst roses I've ever received. I once got a shipment from Hortico in which 7 of the 9 roses were stone dead, without a single living cane or root, and I paid full price for those. The ones from J&P have at least 2 living canes each, so it could be worse.
I'll let you know the state of the roses from Edmunds' when I get them.