Those are some good links too Lynn. They are all tectorums and especially the sites that show many photos of it (your last link) seem to support that Janice has the correct plant.
Those are some nice pictures of' Ashes of Roses' Cliff. Just goes to show how much of an effect the environment can have on the looks of any given semp!
Cliff has a 'Mount Usher' that he received from me, which is obviously the wrong plant. That's why he was already researching it on his own.
