Sue - Just a blurb here, but I want to point out that zone hardiness is not a very reliable as most of my roses are zone 6 and a few are zone 7, but if I stuck with only zone 5 and lower, I'd have very few roses, IMO. In fact, when I called Certified Rosers last year about Picante and what zone was it as the little paperwork on the bag didn't have any info, the gentleman I spoke to said that HTs will adjust to almost any zone above 3. For instance, HMF has BlueGirl at zone 7, but it has been one of the more vigorous survivors I have (
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...). Whether or not this is true, I haven't any idea. I just know what works for me. Maybe I'm special! I *did* ride the little bus when I was in high school....