Tom...I may make some crosses next year. My order from Salmon Creek/Aitkins was very nice. It is the first time i have ordered from them and would do it again. I ordered 8 SDBs here....Celilo, Cornino, Blend of Blue, Fairy Ring, Force Field, Death By Chocolate, Quarter Moon, Purple Zinger, and Bumpkin. They sent 3 bonuses, all intros.......Cosmonuat, Lime Pixie, and Cinnamon Candy. I didn't have the area ready for these yet so I potted them up and will plant them out in a couple of months when the roots are well developed.