I, too have my favorite mom and pop nursery. I never fail to spend money there at Natius'. Sr. Natius is so helpful and his plants are so healthy and fair on pricing. I can get 6 packs there that will double their size before the ones at the box stores to. The plants that or don't do well, go dormant, or out grow their pots are not sold, but taken to the back and wintered over, brought back to good health, or repotted. Sr. Natius then sells a bigger plant the following year.