I saw the hefty price tag on 'My Cup Overflows' and recalled seeing the dip version of it for the first time back in 2009 at Floyd Cove. Pat S. was standing right there when I must have gasped upon seeing it, and before I could ask WHAT it was ( there was no tag except maybe Bomar and a #) Pat told me it was a Josie Bomar seedling that Jack had told him he had to get. It was blooming poly that day and the bloom had to be at least 8" across. The substance was heavy and waxy so it was quite distinctive. I just had it labeled as "Josie Bomar seedling until recently and remembered to change the name. This is the bloom I saw that day.