[quote="Seedfork"]tink3472
Tender...that term still gives me a little problem. My little study on the term did reveal that tender is often misused in in regard to Evergreen, and that local feed back is a possible source of information. I have been looking at the data base and often see very few people own certain daylilies, so that probably being one of the best sources available, it makes finding reliable information on tenderness very subjective it seems. Just out of curiosity I punched in Hardy only to zone 11, actually found one daylily listed, I guess that might qualify as tender?
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In the data base the hardiness listed I believe is a generalized thing going by the USDA zone/hardiness maps, I could be wrong though. I remember before the database was revamped and I was adding info this is how I was told to list the hardiness Dormant =zone 3, Semi-evergreen= zone 4a and Evergreen = zone 5a. This still does not mean that the plants are actually hardy in those zones, it's just giving generalized info about it.
The one daylily you are referring to (Flip, Flop, Fly??) is listed as Max zone 11 but minimum is zone 4 so it would not be a tender plant going by that. It was hybridized in Ohio so I doubt it would be tender if this is the one you are talking about.
And YES it is very subjective indeed. Things that I consider tender here may do well in a colder climate. My issue here is we are usually warm (or not too cold) in the winter so the plants grow then when/if we get a freeze the tender, new growth turns to mush and then we get warm or hot and the mush turns to rot and if that doesn't hurt the plant (I spray for it) and new growth starts popping up then we get a freeze and the new growth gets zapped again and then that mush turns to rot once it warms up again. If it just stayed cold the whole winter and the foliage died instead of turning to mush then the tender ones here may not be tender.