Yes, the Dens are a puzzle, Ken. I have no idea how big most of mine will get, except of course the start Jim gave me of his big Nobile will be huge some day, if I can keep it alive.
Hmm, I may have to make the trip up to the show in Tampa. Although I really blew the budget at the Venice show buying Frances Fox, my birthday is coming up . . . uh, oh, DH already bought me a GoPro camera for the regatta week before last, so he may be off the hook.