Marilyn I don't go every year all though I would like too
we had a great time in California last year and it went way to fast hopefully I can spend a little more time out there enjoying the scenery this year. I will spend the majority of my time in Santa Cruz but I am definitely visiting those guys and hopefully Doug again so would be great if we can all meet up there.
The 1st one my favorite will not be introduced in current form there was something they didn't like either not enough buds or tight branching I don't remember which but hopefully it is a work in progress as gorgeous as it is. I think it comes from( Regimen x All Night Long) hence the substance and ruffles take a look at that one in the database it has produced some Awesome !! plants for Joe. I have been trying to get my hands on a piece of it for years now and finally found it. The other two may be future possibilities but I vote for all 3