with Ursula! I'm in So. Cal, and for me Phals have to be a house plant, or they perish. The Epidendrons do thrive outside with no care though, as we rarely get freezing temps. If our drought continues, I'll be reduced to buying orchids from you, as I'm losing the real ones as fast as I can buy more. I love the work you have done with your ( not quite real) orchids!