do you know Logees... the nursery link I sent, the are great.. real small plants though.. I go up there on occasion.. like in the middle of the winter... their greenhouses are in full bloom... a decades old pondersoa lemon that fills a greenhouse.. and blooming... my ...it's like a trip to the tropics...and you get to bring back ones you'd like to grow... and you get to choose particular plants...often bigger than the ones they might be shipping..but they always have new and interesting plants.. and they will eventually get big..
