Don't recall seeing this before...noticed it by my GH this morning...maybe acorns are making me more aware of blooms.

Hypericum hypericoides

http://www.southeasternflora.c...

Alrighty then...brain fart here. I had posted before an unknown without bloom that was IDd as St. Andrew's Cross. I added my pics then to hypericum hypericoides subsp hypericoides. Both plants are in my yard, but different locations. The first that I posted for ID is very much larger then the one posted today. Would they be the same ? Should the new pics be added to the DB where I added the others OR under hypericum hypericoides. Both are listed in the DB. Am I confused?? yes!!

There are two sub-species of Hypericum hypericoides. Hypericum hypericoides ssp. hypericoides and Hypericum hypericoides ssp. multicaule. When you have more than one sub-species the original name become a generic catch all for that species. In this case Hypericum hypericoides would be used when you are not sure which of the sub-species you have.

I think the subspecies hypericoides should be deleted, the Plant List doesn't include that and it usually only means it's the 'straight' species anyway.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

There's also two entries for subsp. multicaule in the database.

http://garden.org/plants/searc...

I'll request to move the photos in subsp. hypericoides, and to delete the extra entries.

OK, I have made two requests, one to delete the duplicate entry, the other to move the photos from subsp. hypericoids to hypericoides. When that is done I will request to delete that entry.

There should still be a separate listing for subsp. hypericoides. Like I said in my last post. Even though the name Hypericum hypericoides ssp. hypericoides now refers to the original specimen, you should always use the entire name when it is known. Just saying Hypericum hypericoides is what you would use only when you are not sure which subsp. the specimen is.

There's different schools of thought on that Jay, as they are both really the same species with slight variations often due to location. Some people don't believe there should be subspecies. There's no reason why the 'straight' species can't fit in the 'straight' species epithet, besides the Plant List gives hypericoides 2 stars in the confidence level where subsp. multicaule only has one.

JRsbugs said: besides the Plant List gives hypericoides 2 stars in the confidence level where subsp. multicaule only has one.

But they still list it as accepted.

Horntoad said:

But they still list it as accepted.

Yes they do, that remains on the database.

Thanks Janet and Jay and sorry for the confusion. It has been sorted out in the DB, so I'm gonna mark this closed.