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Jun 1, 2012 3:59 AM CST
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central Illinois
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Is there a term for doubling like this? Variety is Tiger Play. I've had it 3 years and never noted this aberration before.Thumb of 2012-06-01/jmorth/0f7d63
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Jun 1, 2012 5:00 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Polytepal. Enjoy the peculiarities when they come along. Smiling
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Jun 1, 2012 11:54 AM CST
Name: Lily Martagon
Du Page County Illinois (Zone 5a)
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J, thanks for posting this question and thanks Moby for the answer. I have seen this peculiarity in my lilies before but don't know the term.

And is there a term for this? Normal petal count with extra filaments.
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Jun 1, 2012 12:42 PM CST
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central Illinois
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Thanks Moby.
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Jun 1, 2012 1:33 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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You're welcome.

No extra petals, even little deformed ones? That is odd.
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Jun 1, 2012 1:49 PM CST
Name: Lily Martagon
Du Page County Illinois (Zone 5a)
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No extra petals. The second flower opened with one extra filament.

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Jun 1, 2012 2:12 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Strange indeed.
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Jun 2, 2012 2:54 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
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I have looked and asked into this-and on the lilium judging sheet is a statement'does this bloom have all the correct amount of parts'? if not move on!..,3-5-7-8 petals, 5 filaments12 filaments,.its like fasciation, can happen one year, and not the next[anyway, they still look nice] Thumbs up
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Jun 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Indeed, for judging purposes flowers must have the right and correct number of botanical parts. They certainly wouldn't be representative it they didn't!

Ruth Cocker will tell you a story of an entry that they bred, and the judge downgraded it because pollen had fallen onto the petals. When she inquired later as to why the downgrade and the judge told her, she said "that's not pollen, those are spots!" The judge was surprised (and I am sure, apologized), but it was too late to change the ranking.
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Jun 27, 2012 7:41 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Here's another odd one ~ extra petals, normal number of filaments
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Jun 27, 2012 8:13 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Here's another--a Royal Sunset with three and a single filiment.
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Jun 27, 2012 2:19 PM CST
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Got a pic?
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Jun 27, 2012 2:57 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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What Happened? Thought I put them up! Ok, here we go.Thumb of 2012-06-27/Roosterlorn/575e4e
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Jun 27, 2012 4:34 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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That is really weird.
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Jun 27, 2012 5:08 PM CST
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I've had irises that would get just two falls and two standards instead of three. I always figured it was something environmental going on early in bloom formation.
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Jun 27, 2012 6:51 PM CST
Name: Corey
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I posted this already in the June 2012 lily thread, but here is my "peculiar" bloom of 'Pink Perfection':

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Jun 27, 2012 7:33 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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This is turning out to be a really interesting thread. I think this happens more than we notice in nature (unless it's a big Pink Perfection) and most mutations end up being aborted naturally anyway. I really never look for them--it's amazing how some even catch our eye--especially in a group of 75 to 100 flowers (like my Royal Sunset). Like finding a four leaf clover, I never really look for them, but when I glance down and--there one is, I'm intrigued.
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