Plant ID forum: Unable to get a true ID on this plant - I tried Cactus forum

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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
Jun 4, 2012 9:41 PM CST
I have a new plant from O'tooles Nursery in the cactus area.
I have tried to add to database but cannot seem to get it to go

There is a lot of chatter on the web, but cannot find a scientific. It is a tiny plant about 1-1 1/2 Inches and is marked Aloe Helen Haage. Looks like some grow to huge size. But am in the wrong zone for outdoor growth .

I found something that said Gasteraloe 'Helen Haage' Looks like 'Katherine McDonald' but leaves are more densely tubercled. Looks like a hybrid of A. juvenna and G. batesiana. Grows a stem covered with leaves that are a green gold colour, covered with golden pearly tubercles.

Family Aloaceae, Genus: Gasterealoe, Synonym:X Gastrolea
Synonym:Aloe gastrolea , Category:Cactus and Succulents


Thanks for all your help I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you.
Marilyn

Any help is appreciated!!!!! I'm all ears! Thumb of 2012-06-05/CDsSister/8ba3ad
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Jun 4, 2012 10:36 PM CST

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I found several online references for a Gasteraloe 'Helen Haage'. Gasteraloes are hybrids, a mix of Gasteria and Aloe. There are a few entries for X Gasteraloe. http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Gasteraloe+
I created the entry here for you. Gasteraloe (XGasteraloe 'Helen Haage')
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jun 4, 2012 10:37 PM CST

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And I forgot to add that many of these are hard to ID when still small.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 10:42 PM CST
Would she enter the photo in the link you provided Sue. The recheck it as it grows up some?
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jun 5, 2012 10:10 AM CST

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I think it would be fine since it was labeled as such, especially since a cultivar name was added to the label. It could have been just labeled 'aloe' or 'gasteraloe' but with the cultivar name, it most likely is correct. But adding photos as it grows and then checking it with experts or other online shots of mature ones would be a great idea.
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 10:27 AM CST
Thanks you so much, I really appreciate the help. As a newbie I am impatient to get identification and add to my database *Blush*

I will photograph it every month and see how it changes.

Thanks again for the help I tip my hat to you.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 11:13 AM CST
Sis, don't forget to add the photos to the database here. Use the link Sue gave you in her above post. Thumbs up
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 12:21 PM CST
Did that already, just waiting approval Whistling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 12:22 PM CST
Hurray!
Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 12:23 PM CST
Is it OK to add stats found on other web pages which are not scientific or even garden specific ?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 12:24 PM CST
Give an example, not sure I understand?
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 12:28 PM CST
The info on the has
Synonym:X Gastrolea
Synonym:Aloe gastrolea
some height and sun requirements etc
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jun 5, 2012 12:32 PM CST

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Yes, go ahead and add that. Thumbs up
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 12:37 PM CST
I agree And you will earn acorns. Green Grin!
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 12:40 PM CST
Yea!!! For Acorns, Hurray! Hurray!

I have heard of Monkeys working for peanuts, but humans working for acorns? Hilarious!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 12:45 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Now I have seen it all. Whistling
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
Garden today. Clean next week.
Garden Procrastinator Region: Colorado Heucheras Region: Southwest Gardening Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sempervivums Annuals Foliage Fan Herbs Garden Ideas: Level 2
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CDsSister
Jun 5, 2012 1:21 PM CST
By the way do you know what "Crisp packing peanuts" are? I'm all ears!

I bought some packing peanuts a couple of years ago to put in bottom of a planter and they turned to jelly. Grumbling

Of course the plants all sank down too. UGLY!!

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2012 1:24 PM CST
Crisp packing peanuts are not biodegradable, they wont melt. If uncertain put one in a bowl of water and see if it melts. It should also give you information on the bag when buying them, what type the are.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
Garden today. Clean next week.
Garden Procrastinator Region: Colorado Heucheras Region: Southwest Gardening Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sempervivums Annuals Foliage Fan Herbs Garden Ideas: Level 2
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CDsSister
Jun 6, 2012 5:33 PM CST
OK we got the plant identified as a new hybrid of Gasteraloe.

Although this is tiny now, It is said to get as tall as 7 feet and as big as 12 inches wide, more if clustered.

I think I better get a bigger pot nodding Look at it in a teacup planter-->>

Gasteraloe (XGasteraloe 'Helen Haage')
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
Region: California Plant Database Moderator Roses Irises Clematis Garden Photography
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Calif_Sue
Jun 6, 2012 11:48 PM CST

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Looking good!
I cleared out the species field, you don't list the plant cross there. You can add that in the comments section. Thumbs up
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