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Jun 29, 2020 9:43 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
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I hope I didn't duplicate any. ~ Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jun 29, 2020 9:52 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Great containers! Love all the color!
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Jun 30, 2020 12:01 AM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
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Totally speechless! Your choice of plants, the containers, the landscaping involved, the bonsai, the succulents! A master arrangement! I couldn't decide which One I liked, I loved them all! And the chickadee eating out of your hand, priceless! I tip my hat to you. Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.
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Jun 30, 2020 5:48 AM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
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I love the intense colors of the northern blooms and the artistic display if your containers @Tapla. I grew up in the north and always enjoy that on my vacation. As I'm not going north this year, thank you for sharing your container blooms. It is the next best thing! Thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2020 8:26 AM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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Beautiful collection! Drooling Thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2020 10:02 AM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
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Not all 'container images, but I hope you like.

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Deermouse drunk on fermenting Virginia creeper berries


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This is a cool kit - just need to assemble it now.



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petunia bloom on elephant ear



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Thinking bigger, or at least heavier



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found this, as is, in a customer's stone mulch. It has not been altered in any way. In case you wonder, I DID ask if it was ok if I kept it and got approval, but the view I presented to the customer wasn't the one you see in the image. Reminds me of "The Scream"





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Who wants to guess at what this is?

Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
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Jun 30, 2020 11:02 AM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
Eat more tomatoes!
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Wow, where is that lavender field? Are you entering your pics in the yearly contest? If you're not, you should! The drunk deer mouse was absolutely awesome. The bonsai I want to say is a crown of thorns, but I don't see any thorns.
Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:05 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
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Nope. Hint - it's a tender perennial often found in boarders.



Meanwhile, here's a well-pinched trailing coleus, cultivar unknown.
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Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:13 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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snapdragon?
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Jun 30, 2020 3:45 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
Houseplants Foliage Fan Dog Lover Container Gardener Birds Wild Plant Hunter
Yes. Proof:
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Al
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* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jun 30, 2020 3:47 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
Houseplants Foliage Fan Dog Lover Container Gardener Birds Wild Plant Hunter
Yes. Proof:
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This ^^^ was before I removed the blooms

Here's a relative of geranium:
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Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jun 30, 2020 4:03 PM CST
Name: Bea
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Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! tapla ...those are really beautiful bonsai, a true master at the art of training plants .
Ain't nothin in my container gardens to compare with those beautiful specimens. Totally a whole different class...
It has always amazed me how perfect these specimens are stunted in little pots to perform so well. Your's are just..."STUNNIN'. I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you.
How old are these plants in the pics?

All the lovely pics above posted truly made my day thank you.🐝
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
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Jun 30, 2020 4:28 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
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Al, you mentioned in a previous post how you found the scream rock while putting down rock mulch for a client. May I presume you are a professional landscaper?
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Jun 30, 2020 7:46 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
Houseplants Foliage Fan Dog Lover Container Gardener Birds Wild Plant Hunter
I owned a glazing contracting corporation - essentially a Glass Company. I sold sole interest in it and retired last September. I think was at that particular customer's home on behalf of a general contractor - to review the customer's needs for one or more of the many facets of the glass trade. I just happened to look down at the stone mulch already in place, and that particular stone just sort of jumped out at me, figuratively, of course.

In the 80s, I was at a Chicago hotel on business and happened to note there was a bonsai show being set up. I was so enthralled with the diminutive trees I decided I HAD to know how to do it myself. My growing abilities and understanding of how plants work is entirely a byproduct of my continuing pursuit of greater proficiency in the art/science of bonsai. I've found the single most important key to success for any container growing ventures is knowing how water behaves in container substrates and how to harness the concept. Initially I failed at bonsai, but putting the trees aside and delving into soil science brought salvation and is really what's buoyed my endeavors these last 35 years. That's likely more than you wanted to know, but I do enjoy talking and sharing thoughts with other gardeners.
Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jun 30, 2020 11:53 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
Eat more tomatoes!
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No, I'm very glad you told your story! I could tell by your bonsai that you had either been working in this art for many years and/ or had done some extensive study / research into this art form of growing container plants.
I think that sometimes our particular proficiency in growing certain plants grows out of our love and obsession for them, and sometimes from life changes we make throughout our growing years.
In my case, my gardening specialties came from my environmental concerns of the pollutants we put in our earth, water and air, and how to preserve our plant pollinators. I went organic 6 years ago, I use IPM, and even though I won't give up my first loves, day lilies, roses, and iris, my plant choices for my garden now are selected for their abilities to sustain and maintain our local native bee populations and some of the more endangered butterflies.
I also spend a ridiculous amount of time with tomatoes, an obsession for sure! I pursue the perfect tomato every year, and have a lot of fun doing it. 😁
Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.
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Jul 1, 2020 11:00 AM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
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This is a really good place to ask a question, which I'll eventually get to, and I pray the OP will forgive my straying from the intended topic. If I offend, I'll clear my post. I always like to let people judge whether or not I know what I'm talking about by what I say, but when you try to help people, all you have to sell is your credibility. I started to talk about container gardening, substrates/media in particular, about 2000. People involved in these discussions named the substrates the 5-1-1 mix https://www.google.com/search?... and the gritty mix. If you click the link, you'll see google, today, offers about 95 million hits for 5-1-1 mix, and if you add my name (al 5-1-1 mix) it drops down to about 64.5 million hits. I don't care at all about notoriety, but I do care about credibility; so, please believe that what could be looked at as a boast, is me asking you to consider giving what I say some credibility, if only because of the number of people I've helped.

I've made some interesting observations along the way about container gardening.

* The most important one is, almost all off-the-shelf potting substrates are water-retentive to the degree more often than not they inhibit plants grown in them from realizing more than half of their potential; this due to suppression of root function. Even diseases and insect herbivory can be traced back to a struggling root system. We simply cannot grow healthy plants until we learn to keep their root systems healthy. As go the roots, so goes the rest of the plant.

* Gaining an understanding of the concept that drives water retention in container substrates is the largest step forward a container gardener can take along the path to a green thumb. I've received, quite literally, thousands of testimonies from people whose growing experience was redefined by that concept. Briefly, it goes: Water sticks to itself (cohesion) and it sticks to pot walls and soil particles (adhesion). If the particles are small enough (a given volume of small particles has more combined surface area than the same volume of coarser particles) the sum of the forces of adhesion + cohesion can be stronger than the force of gravity. When this occurs, water 'perches' (think bird perched on a wire) in the soil at the pot's bottom to form a 100% saturated layer that usually ranges from 3-6" deep in substrates based on large fractions of fine textured material (peat, compost, coir, sand, topsoil, composted forest products, ......).

*The next most important thing I've learned is - perennial plantings (which includes houseplants and trees) need attention beyond water/fertilizer and the occasional up-potting most container gardeners include in their care regimen. Root congestion starts sapping a planting's potential at approximately the time the root/soil mass can be lifted from the plant intact, and it continues to take a toll until someone actually gets their hands into the middle of the root mass to correct congestion and other root issues. I've seen many claims about grandma's Ficus that's 30 years old, never been repotted, and is perfectly healthy, but I've never seen the trees. Potting up ensures the limitations of root congestion remain; where repotting, which includes bare-rooting (or nearly so), root pruning, and a change of soil ensure they are relieved entirely until the point in time where the root/soil mass can be lifted from the pot intact again. Perennials with nonfibrous roots or roots that aren't prone to branching are usually divided regularly.

* Roots are not fragile and sensitive about being disturbed. Plants age ontogenetically instead of chronologically, like animals age. This means a plant's most vigorous tissues are located in the root to shoot transition zone. Think about that tree you remove suckers from (around the base) 3-4 times every summer and still can't keep up.

* If you're using a substrate that holds little to no excess/perched water, it's nearly impossible to over-water, and fertilizing becomes monkey-easy. Not having to fight the substrate for control of your plant's vitality is a conspicuous game changer.

There's much, much more, but I'd better get to the question. Do you think this site and this forum in particular would be open to a tutorial thread about substrates and water retention?

I also have tutorials which can be posted as a thread on many other topics, all of which have been popular and active on other forum sites.

Again - my sincere apology for waylaying the thread.


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Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jul 1, 2020 11:06 AM CST
Name: Kim
Black Hills, SD (Zone 5a)
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tapla said:
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Who wants to guess at what this is?

Al


Adenium?
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Jul 1, 2020 11:12 AM CST
Name: Kim
Black Hills, SD (Zone 5a)
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Huge crassula ovata (jade plant) in a container:


Before my pelargoniums were mowed down by the deer 2 weeks ago:


In a pot with an English ivy plant and mini roses:


Inside the house:


Some of my most healthy and biggest succulents:



(yes, the picture in this plant is the same one as the Haworthia picture above, except this was before it was transplanted to a bigger pot)


Alright, that's enough container pics for now, but I'll have some more later!
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Jul 1, 2020 12:01 PM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
tapla said:

There's much, much more, but I'd better get to the question. Do you think this site and this forum in particular would be open to a tutorial thread about substrates and water retention?

I also have tutorials which can be posted as a thread on many other topics, all of which have been popular and active on other forum sites.

Again - my sincere apology for waylaying the thread.


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Al


On this or other forums, an educational thread could be set up as a Sticky to keep it at the top of a forum. If you find it worth your trouble, I'm game. I would be interested. I hope to never to be too old to learn.
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Jul 1, 2020 2:54 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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I agree
I would be interested in reading for education
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.

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