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Mar 6, 2011 4:34 PM CST
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Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
True but last summer we had NC sun and I had to put a screen cloth over my cyms every sunny day. They still burned leaves but they sure bloomed this winter. And my Schom finally bloomed! We usually have so many rainy, cloudy, foggy days that they don't need to be covered.
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Mar 6, 2011 4:43 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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That's why I mentioned the ocean. I don't know about the east coast, but here the coast rarely sees the sun before noon.
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Mar 6, 2011 5:28 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
I did just put the shade cloth up in the greenhouse, I noticed some of the Catt. leaves were getting scalded..
These spots on the Cyms. just didn't look like sunburn to me, there's so much to learn and they are all so
different! When I lived on the Chesapeake Bay, we rarely had fog in the morning, the water and air were usually
very close in temperatures. So Kathy, let me see if I'm getting what you are saying..the Cyms DO NOT want full
sun, but as much sun as they can tolerate? and that will increase blooms?
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Mar 6, 2011 9:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
If you go really slowly acclimating them, you may be able to get them to do full sun but your sun is stronger than mine. This sets them up to bloom, but what initiates bloom for most cyms is cool nights almost to freezing for as long as you can do it. Then bring them into a cool space with good light for winter and Bob's your uncle....spikes!!
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Mar 17, 2011 5:12 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
Oh knowledgeable ones....
I was looking at this technology today and wondering if it would work in the greenhouse with orchid fertilizer ?
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I've never used this in my yard, but it looks like you can dial in the strength (weekly weakly) What do you think?
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Mar 17, 2011 6:45 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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I haven't checked the fine print, but most of those hose end feeders require a minimum of 60 lbs water pressure to work.. are you going to use that much pressure in the greenhouse?
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Mar 17, 2011 7:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Yup! I tried it with my garden hose to no avail! Blinking
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Mar 17, 2011 7:35 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
I just love the 'ask the experts ' section!
Thanks! I tip my hat to you.
I'll move on to another brilliant idea Hilarious!
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Mar 17, 2011 7:38 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
We probably have failed on that too. I still have all my equipment from my many experiments!
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Mar 20, 2011 11:59 AM CST
Moderator
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Lindsey,
I just fertilized my greenhouse with just a sprayer like or similar to the one you had asked the question about. I have on occasion used it at 25 psi ( when using rainwater) and yes, I had to dial up to maximum flow ( 8ozs/gallon) and it probably came out a bit dilute, but the siphoning process worked.
Using the tap, I dialed up to the highest setting/8ozs per Gallon and multiplied the fertilizer amount x 16. Very roughly 3 tablespoons fertilizer dissolved in a Gallon of water ( I added a longer skinny hose to reach into the Gallon jug) does my whole greenhouse ( minus the succulents on the house wall). I work very fast and make sure the water is at room temp. ( and then off rinse the glass walls with rainwater.)
I think you can use it, if you don't worry about not being too accurate. The siphoning process is not a problem here. I have to mention that I always remove the little filter in those Sprayers, since they impede the flow. You don't have to make up a Gallon as long as you multiply by 16 at that setting.
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Mar 20, 2011 12:50 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
Thanks Ursula,
I am currently using a short garden hose,hooked up to my mini water heater which is getting the same
water (and pressure) as our house does. I am using one of those sprayers on the end of the hose that
I can select, mist, jet, spray.etc...I generally use it on mist and once a week I am flooding each of the pots
with the spray selection. Last year I used something like this technology from Miracle Grow on my flower
beds..and I just thought it would be useful in the orchid house. Right now I am using a huge watering can
that's difficult to hoist up over my head! My fear is burning the plants with too much fertilizer using the spray
technology...but if I'm understanding you correctly...the mix would be too weak?
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Mar 20, 2011 4:19 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Lindsey,
I essentially use my sprayer like the siphon as sold here.
http://homeharvest.com/waterfe...
There are a whole bunch of different ones on the market, I simply used what I had on hand.
But, I think it is always a good idea to recalculate and check out what someone else is using. Like you, after a while I found it simply not practical to water from a watering can held high over my head.

I should add that I used the x16 factor looking at the 8ozs/gallon mark on the sprayer and knowing that 1 gallon is 128 ozs. ( 128:8 =16) So if you wish to spray at 1/2 teaspoons/gallon - .5 x 16 = 8 teaspoons or 2.7 tablespoons. I used 3 tablespoons instead 2.7 and filled the 1 gallon jug.
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Apr 11, 2011 9:18 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tropicals Plant and/or Seed Trader
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Seed Starter Roses Orchids Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I've got a newby question, should Oncids get direct light or indirect? My Oncid/Tolumnia is getting a bit of direct morning sun with bright light the rest of the day. The information I've read online so far seems to conflict. The flowers keep opening and aren't dropping off so I am hoping thats a good sign!
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Apr 11, 2011 9:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sounds fine to me. Morning light is east and the kindest of all the direct lighting.
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Apr 12, 2011 9:12 AM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tropicals Plant and/or Seed Trader
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Seed Starter Roses Orchids Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Great thank-you! Would a Paph get enough sun about 4 feet back from a south window also with a bit of morning sun? I'm kind of paranoid that they're not getting enough light...... Rolling my eyes.
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Apr 12, 2011 2:44 PM CST
Name: bree
North coast NSW Australia
Region: Australia Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Herbs Dog Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Orchids Ponds
Paphs don't need as much light as Oncidiums. Sounds fine.
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Apr 12, 2011 8:44 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tropicals Plant and/or Seed Trader
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Seed Starter Roses Orchids Container Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Hurray! Thankyou, there is one from Orchids Canada I have my eye on....I figure if I order from Paramount this month I can order the Paph next month... Big Grin

Does anyone here grow Arundina graminifolia? OC has some kekeis (sp?) for sale and I'm wondering how easy or difficult they are to grow?
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Apr 14, 2011 2:51 PM CST
Name: bree
North coast NSW Australia
Region: Australia Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Herbs Dog Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Orchids Ponds
Steven- I don't have one but its a ground orchid and likes to stay damp and not dry out between waterings, ive heard it can be a bit of a weed in warm areas. Easy to seed, sounds/looks like a crucifix orchid. Should be easy to grow then.
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Apr 14, 2011 5:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Does anyone grow Eulophias? I got worried when mine became leafless, not remembering that they can be deciduous. But I moved it to high indirect light and water daily and looky looky, I see cookie!Thumb of 2011-04-14/boojum/fff73a
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Apr 14, 2011 6:05 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
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