Adeniums forum: Great Grafting for adeniums

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Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Jun 17, 2012 1:24 PM CST
here is a video where it shows the v grafting and at the end of video it tells what they use by the way of knife and plastic. Its a great watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNn-9tlhQ7M

mike

hope to get more for our info but its a must watch if you want to learn

mocropot
Jun 18, 2012 9:28 PM CST
Thank you for the link, I really want to try a flat graft. Have you tried?
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Jun 18, 2012 9:44 PM CST
have one i just put to graft and fingers crossed looks easy but i seem to be all thumbs now days have you seen some one do that?
Name: Jim Cook
South Florida
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jimsned2
Jun 19, 2012 6:39 AM CST
Mike; I've seen this video b-4 and it left me with a question, suppose you intended to graft a white branch on to a red plant, do you think the leafs from the plant receiving the graft should be pulled off so more energy go's into the graft healing? Also, is it possible to hard prune (remove ALL the branches) leaving only the caudex and graft a few different colors on to the caudex. I followed that videos instructions except for the plastic covering, I figure it's humid enough here without it. Next Sunday I will be taking the tape off and see if I was successful, but so far they look good. getting that V cut is easy enough but making the cut that fits into it tightly is the most difficult part for me.

Name: Jim Cook
South Florida
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jimsned2
Jun 19, 2012 7:46 AM CST
folks here is another video you just have to see to believe whats possible with these plants
http://www.adeniumsindia.com/tips_tricks.php

Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Jun 19, 2012 11:41 AM CST
The only problem with multiple colors on one plant is that they sometimes do not bloom together! hahaha.
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Jun 19, 2012 11:45 AM CST
jim yes it is becoming a widely common practice to remove all the branches (leave stubs to graft to) and graft different colors on one plant It is my passion as soon as i can get a good grafting process down I have picked out a caudex off a pure white one i will leave one branch on it and then i want to do a nice red color pink color and some thing with yellow like vanilla ice i just got.

the next one i like to do is pure white, siam violet (purple edge,) purple rose and i have seeds for a double lavender think maybe a striking double pink also.....but maybe next year i need to graft a few more times. 90% of the videos i have seen people do this they use flat graft here is a pick of one i loveThumb of 2012-06-19/chefmike92/477fe7

as for leaves on graft if you use a stem with lot of leaves I would snip most all yes to save energy if it is a tip you are grafting i would leave 2-3 small ones on top just my option

i should have 3 boxes with plumeria on my door today or tomorrow got to get some pots ready see ya all in a few

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Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
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chefmike92
Jun 19, 2012 11:49 AM CST
Cross post Melisa I forgot that point for YOU are 100% correct if you dont know they flowering time you can have flowers at all different times. A big point the grafters in India that are doing a lot of this point out.

thank
Name: Jim Cook
South Florida
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jimsned2
Jun 19, 2012 12:29 PM CST
Well Mike I just got back from home depot where I got most of the stuff to try your new potting mixture. I even got the coir basket. I tried cutting some off and putting it in a blender what I got was a big knot of coir Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing , I ended up just cutting it up with shears bu teven then it seemed to bind together when I mixed it in with the other stuff. One good thing tho, I met a man and his wife who were into adenium who took me to they''e home and gave me a good size white plant, I took them to my place and gave him one of my only two black asia seedling. He had over a hundred adenium and none with a caudex, all from cuttings. I showed his wife how to get on to all things plants and hope they join us.

Jim

Name: Charleen
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Ridesredmule
Jun 19, 2012 12:33 PM CST
I think the leaves will fall from the plant after grafting.
That is a dream to have a plant like that.....
Name: Doris Klene
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kareoke
Jun 19, 2012 12:45 PM CST
Mike i would buy that one nodding
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Jun 19, 2012 1:27 PM CST
I agree me too
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Jun 19, 2012 1:29 PM CST
This isn't grafting, but What the Heck is it??????????????????????????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec_u3GbehU&feature=related

If that doesn't work, search on YouTube--- adenium en agua
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Jun 19, 2012 1:48 PM CST
lost me...
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
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chefmike92
Jun 19, 2012 1:50 PM CST
wow that is craisy it is

Behavior adenium secondary roots in water is the translation

i believe growing and rooting in water it is corce sand he soaks in water and plants the large seedlings and braces them up with im not sure lava rock or charcoal if it is charcoal it will keep the water fresher. I think the big poing is the roots are fully covered but most the caudex is not AND it is in a good growth mode

and we worries about over watering WOW thanks for posting
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Jun 19, 2012 1:52 PM CST
I put this on the Yahoo adeniums group, I'll let you know what they thimmmmk.

mocropot
Jun 19, 2012 3:05 PM CST
Very interesting link, Melissa. I new and practice to use hydroponic method but this is even more water. I would like to know what he puts inside, sand…?
Name: Jim Cook
South Florida
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jimsned2
Jun 19, 2012 3:09 PM CST
Hmmmm, adenium soup Hilarious! I'd also like to know what he put in there! Oh, Mike I got everything for the soil except charcoal, too late now but for the next batch I mix, are you talking about the regular charcoal they use for cookouts? I asked at home depot and they knew nothing about charcoal for orchids. and the other charcoal is infused with lighter fluid?

Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
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chefmike92
Jun 19, 2012 3:42 PM CST
if you look over in the orchid supply area where the potting mix is there is usually different mixes for different orchids and plain bark in a bag and plain charcoal in orchid potting bags also i have found its is harder to fine that.

It is not brickets for cook outs and not with lighter fluid for sure you might be able to fine LUMP hard wood charcoal for grilling bUT you will need to smash in smaller pieces and rinse it off

here is their website and dont see just the charcoal but if you look at whats in the mix it saids

Contains a rich mixture of western fir bark, hardwood charcoal, and sponge rock to ensure healthy and long-lasting plants

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100127480/h_d2/Produ...

so i say hardwood charcoal sense that is what is in the orchid mix

think that what in going to do is a bag and break in to small pieces and rinse and not use the powder just the small ones

mike
Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8 (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Charley's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Mules Tip Photographer I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
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Ridesredmule
Jun 19, 2012 4:48 PM CST
Well. it was different. I'd like to see what happened to the plants...

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