Thank you so much Trish - you look like a young bright person. If you look at the start of the thread "Making bread (from A to Z)" you will see this :

Please see my related thread :

All Things Gardening forum
Cereal Grains for Yard & Garden

... where it shows where the grains (wheat, etc.) actually came from, which is:

from my own garden.

So my question to you Trish, is : How is that NOT garden related?

I make quilts, quilts from fabric, fabric made out of cotton. Cotton comes from plants.
Doesn't make it garden related thus I would not start a quilt thread in the All Things Gardening forum.
I would start in the Sandbox forum.
Have you looked at the Sandbox forum? There are other threads about baking, eating healthy, photography, reading, movies, pets, the weather, etc. It's not a bad place to hang out!

Trish said:Hi Nick.

The sandbox is a catch-all forum for any allowable topic that members would like to discuss that is not about growing plants.
Since breadmaking falls into a cooking subject and not a gardening one, it belongs in the Sandbox forum where some moderator moved it.
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If you have any further questions, please feel free to direct them to me.

Nick, may I ask what are you hoping to achieve with this line of discussion? One of the mods and one of the site admins have both already explained that cooking (regardless of whether the ingredients come from your own garden or not) is not gardening and so this thread belongs in the Sandbox, which is where it is going to stay.

Hello followers

I have just sent 8 pounds of whole wheat grain to username > sacredorigin [see her post at the beginning of this thread]

She has received it today. She also purchased a Corona grain mill on ebay, exactly like the one I am using in this thread. She will receive that in just a few days. So I will be waiting for the word from her that she has got her grain mill mounted and has begun to grind a little grain, before I commence with grinding the grain into flour, and making bread from that flour, which, as I have stated at the very beginning of the thread, the wheat was harvested from my own garden!

I don't know how much plainer it can be:

my own garden

my own wheat

and grinding my own wheat into flour and making bread from it!

Now to have someone even make a statement like " … it's not garden related … "

It reminds me of an old movie :

Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got here is failure to communicate"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

I know that some of you are clever enough to see how it is linked and related, and that how I am being "beaten into submission" … but will I beg for mercy, and roll over and and relent? Or will I just go on and ignore "the authority figures" … ?

to Australis :

Yes, captain!

Now can we talk about the founding of Australia, since were in the "Sandbox"? I've read this book twice (image posted below)!

Do you like sea shanties?

Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag - All Sea Shanties / Pirate Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Is there a lower place than the "Sandbox" on Garden.org ?
Like in the ships bilge ?

Nick, you are welcome to discuss the founding of Australia in a Sandbox thread.

to Australis :

Can you create the forum, and can I name it, sir?

Nick, if you truly want to discuss the topic, you are quite able to create the thread yourself in the Sandbox. However, it seems that you are just attempting to mock me and that's not a game I intend to play.

Have a good day.

to Australis :

No, I asked if you could create a new forum, and if I could name it. I had in mind the "Ship's bilge forum" instead of the "Sandbox forum"

Maybe I should ask for higher-ups in the hierarchy for permission?

Nick its all good man, just let it go brother. I'm trying to see how this bread is going to turn out Any updates on your water?

to ediblelandscapingsc:

Yes, the boil water notice was lifted a couple of days ago, but really without explanation. Never had a boil water notice here before, and I've been here a LONG TIME! Also never received messages like that on my answering machine before either. It seems to be A-OK at this point. Thank you for asking, my brother.

I'm waiting now for sacredorigin to tell me she has her Corona grain mill delivered to her, then we can commence with the bread making. This thread was discussed between her and I, even before I created it, and made the first post.

Some folks may see no merit in what I've posted when I started the thread in the " All Things Gardening forum " - it's NOT for their benefit anyway - it's for the benefit of #1 > sacredorigin and #2 > anyone else who may learn something, or is just entertained, or whatever

But to have the thread "dumped" like that? Even my kitty cat is smart enough never to scratch around in a "Sandbox" - never has and never will. No kitty litter either. He does his business the natural way, outside as nature intended. So why should I now be scratching around in a "Sandbox" ?

" ... not garden related ... " tells me that which ever administrator or moderator who actually moved my thread to "Sandbox forum" without giving me notice or even an explanation BEFORE the fact (it was only AFTER the fact that I got some little snooty remark from calif_sue about it not being garden-related), and still won't "fess up" to it, (nobody has admitted to moving it, and I know I didn't do it myself) !!!! ????

I feel an AGENDA and an increasing feeling of a hostile environment, so I'm waiting for the word from > sacredorigin

Should we just dump Garden.org and continue by ☏ or by ✉

?

Nick Sue is actually super cool. Regardleas of where your thread is I'll still read it. Don't let the small things in life bother you. You and I both know that in today's world there is a lot more things to worry about. I'm so glad to hear they got the water situation fixed and I hope you'll continue your bread making A-Z thread on here so others can enjoy it. At 771 veiws their is no doubt people are interested

I'm reading your thread. There are other cooking and baking threads in the Sandbox. It doesn't matter where they are, I find them just fine.

ediblelandscapingsc
plantmanager

Thank you both for your interest and support. I don't care if calif_sue is really cool or not ... I know a lot of really cool people - I don't need to get on Garden.org for that!

A little story: two of my grand-daughters came over today - 8 & 11 years old. They take great interest in seeing the grains growing in my yard. Today I let both of them grind some of the winter wheat from my front yard garden plot - grind it in my Corona grain mill, into a fine white flour. You never saw such enthusiasm, especially in the youngest one, as she transformed the seeds from "that funny looking grass" into flour by running it through the mill about 3 times. I put the flour into a zip-loc sandwich bag for her, and some of the whole wheat "seeds" in another small zip-loc bag together with 2 of the spikes, so she could show her friends at the Boys & Girls Club.

This is who I'm doing it for too. I told them that they are probably the only ones that they will ever meet who actually had a chance to do that. And I bet their friends won't believe what they see when the girls show them what wheat looks like, and what the flour looks like - what their bread is made from - and that you can actually grow wheat like that in your own front yard, instead of worthless grass that you have to mow all of the time. And you can buy the wheat seeds from garden seed companies (like Territorial, where I bought the Winter Wheat).

Now a young girl of 8 may turn out to be what in the future? But I think she will remember this day for a long time. She will be able to draw on the memory of linking grass seeds to bread. I showed her some other grass seeds that you could make bread from, but they were wild and small and the husks stuck firmly to the seeds. I explained to her that it took people hundreds and thousands of years to transform those wild grasses into grasses with seeds that are so large and plump. She asked "how did they do that?" I tried to explain as briefly as I could, since their mom "was in a hurry" (as usual) ... "year after year they took the largest and the best seeds and replanted them the next year - year after hundreds and thousands of years ..."

I'm waiting for sacredorigin to let me know whether or not to bail out of Garden.org

I discussed with her about creating a thread about growing your own wheat, and milling it, and making bread - even before I made the first post. If she says dump it, then it's goodbye to my new friends here. I will make a proposal to her to finance the development of the web page or web site that she is currently on, so that visitors may pop in and chit chat about stuff, much like they do here on Garden.org

I would rather do that than be disrespected by moderators and administrators like I have been. They seem to have an AGENDA other than gardening!

Sounds like you had a fun day. I'm sure they will remember it forever. It's the little things like that in life that we miss the most when we get older.

to ediblelandscapingsc :

Really a joy to see it. That made the whole day for me. I can remember clearly many things at that age. Not only did they learn what wheat and barley look like, but also Solanum nigrum and Atropa belladonna and I pointed out to them and mom that the little green fruits ripen to look like blueberries in one case, and some other little fruit that children especially (for some reason) find irresistible (in the other case) - most importantly that they (the children) have to learn the difference - since I have real blueberries here also that they can compare with.

So it was a learning experience for mom (my daughter) as well as for her own kids. Where else can you find such botanical curiosities in a residential area in this town, and a knowledgeable person (me) to point these things out to them? I'm sure they left with a lot that they can reflect on later!

I purchase wheat, rye, and spelt berries and grind them in my NutriMill. I get the grains from my local Mennonite bulk food store.

AnnaZ

You are lucky ♧ to have a Mennonite bulk food store nearby, where you live.

Where I used to live, I had a LARGE garden (⅓ acre) and we lived just down the street from a young Mennonite couple who was living "outside" the church, like the so called "jack Mormons." The male head of the household, when I first met him, had a full beard, but then shaved it to blend in with the "Gentiles" - I believe that's what they refer to as all the other people, other than themselves. They became good friends with us and we shared things from our large garden with them - they had only a small residential lot.

When they finally moved from their house, hundreds and hundreds of people came to their house for a short time, then left. I never saw so many people do that sort of thing before. They would get out of their car, dressed in black, stop in for about 5 or 10 minutes, then leave. The next day the house was vacant. So I guess that they were still affiliated with the church to some degree, although they were living as "Gentiles." They were not Mormon, though, because the guy would often talk about the Mennonites.

That's my Mennonite story, for what it's worth. My ancestry is Quaker (Society of Friends) and Norwegian (Viking). I hear that the largest Norwegian community (or communities) in the U.S. are in WI. Do you like lefse & lutefisk by any chance?

Calif_Sue said:I make quilts, quilts from fabric, fabric made out of cotton. Cotton comes from plants.
Doesn't make it garden related thus I would not start a quilt thread in the All Things Gardening forum.
I would start in the Sandbox forum.
Have you looked at the Sandbox forum? There are other threads about baking, eating healthy, photography, reading, movies, pets, the weather, etc. It's not a bad place to hang out!

Seems rather disrespectful. I personally would look for "making bread a to z" in gardening forum since it includes growing, harvesting , processing garden plants. This is where all the work is. To toss it in the sandbox because it has bread making process in the title is kind of odd... this would separate two very important and connected processes which would make it difficult to tie together.. This is rather disappointing that the thread was thrown into the "sandbox".

your comparison / analogy of " I make quilts, quilts from fabric, fabric made out of cotton. Cotton comes from plants." is irrelevant UNLESS you are growing and harvesting cotton, its all about JUST knitting and sewing.

Just saying......