Roses forum: Finally: a bloom on Shazam!

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 22, 2012 5:58 PM CST

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This is the third time I've tried to grow Shazam! (that exclamation point is part of the name, although it also expresses my surprise at the survival of this third rose). The first one was dead on arrival and the second one died shortly after arrival. I also bought one for Sue that was a lost cause from the start. This one, however, beat the odds by surviving and producing a bloom. In view of the fact that it's a J&P rose, which increases the possibility of a negative outcome dramatically, I feel quite lucky.

It's pretty enough from the top, but the side view is stunning, I think.


Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 22, 2012 6:25 PM CST
At least it is not mislabeled?

I really like roses with contrasting color on the reverse.
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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Jul 22, 2012 8:23 PM CST
Ooh I like that one! I wish I could find it locally.. I'd definitely buy it!! Where did you get it? Sounds vaguely familiar.. Is it a J&P rose?
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Jul 22, 2012 8:52 PM CST
I found mine in a grocery store parking lot seasonal nursery, believe it or not! It was only $9, I think.
It bloomed for the first month I had it, then maybe once again 3 weeks ago, and that's it. At least it's still alive, which is amazing considering where I planted it and how hot it has been.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 22, 2012 8:59 PM CST

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Yes, it's a J&P rose, Toni. Didn't you read my post? Green Grin!
Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Jul 22, 2012 9:05 PM CST
zuzu said:Yes, it's a J&P rose, Toni. Didn't you read my post? Green Grin!


*Blush* *Blush* *Blush* Sawwy.. Brain's fried from the heat.. Got a massive migraine going on right now because of the pressure changes. 101deg at noon, 83 & storms at 2, 94 & sun at 6pm.. C'mon weather, make up your mind!

I would have sworn I'd seen Shazam! somewhere locally, but not this year. I'll definitely have to keep my eyeballs open for it.
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zuzu
Jul 22, 2012 9:31 PM CST

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Cindi bought one locally, but I've never seen Shazam! at a local nursery. If I had, I would have snapped it up rather than putting my trust in J&P's online service. I think the local nurseries here lost all of their faith in J&P two or three years ago, around the time Shazam! was released. I know they've never carried Crescendo, another rose I'd like to have. But I won't pay $39.95 for one from J&P, especially after seeing the plants they ship. I always waited for the half-price J&P sales to order Shazam! They've been lousy plants each time, but at least I didn't pay full price for them.
Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Jul 22, 2012 10:04 PM CST
Our local nurseries quit buying them also. I think the rose I lucked onto was a #2. It definitely is Shazam!. I bought it on April 14, 5 hours before the tornado took out the nursery. I joked with the clerk saying I was buying before they lost them in a tornado, and boy did I feel bad later.
I put in an order from Wayside a few months ago when they had their season ending rose sale. I ordered some hostas and shrubs on the same sale. Finally an email arrives announcing the shipment is coming, and then 1 box appears. No shrub, no roses. Just the hostas, but they look great. So I wait. The shipping invoice says this is a complete order, and it's just 1 box, but only the hostas have check marks by them.
I wait some more, then call them. I get a machine and leave a message. Then I email them. and again. No response. Finally it's way past time to even attempt anything bare root, so I notify my bank that I want a chargeback on my credit card. Bank of America has no problem doing that. From what I can tell, Wayside/Parks/J & P has never challenged the chargeback. They've never contacted me in any way. In the past, I got used to them sending an order out in several shipments, with a separate charge to the card each time, but just with 1 shipping fee. This was different for them. somebody really goofed on this one.
They have some roses in the most recent catalog that I would love to grow, but I'm not ordering from them again. This time, I really mean it.
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Steve812
Jul 23, 2012 8:17 AM CST
I'm pretty much in the same boat with Wayside. When Porkpal writes here "I bought a dozen hybrid tea roses from Wayside two years ago. They all shipped promptly and are thriving, blooming all summer long despite tropically damp weather here in TX, and growing vigorously without a trace of blackspot," I'll reconsider.

In the mean time, I'll just have to live vicariously, admiring Zuzu's and Sue's lovely photos of roses I'll never grow.
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 23, 2012 8:38 AM CST
Not going to happen!
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Jul 23, 2012 11:42 AM CST
Sad but true. Sad
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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Jul 23, 2012 11:49 AM CST
Steve812 said:I'm pretty much in the same boat with Wayside. When Porkpal writes here "I bought a dozen hybrid tea roses from Wayside two years ago. They all shipped promptly and are thriving, blooming all summer long despite tropically damp weather here in TX, and growing vigorously without a trace of blackspot," I'll reconsider.

In the mean time, I'll just have to live vicariously, admiring Zuzu's and Sue's lovely photos of roses I'll never grow.


I agree I agree I agree on the PPal part.. but the living vicariously? Nyah, I'm gonna try it myself. LOL But I can promise you that I'll NEVER order from Wayside gardens again.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jul 24, 2012 1:27 PM CST

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Ohhh, that was worth the wait Zuzu! It's a pretty thing!
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 24, 2012 1:33 PM CST

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I like it too, Sue. It's like Belle Epoque in a different color scheme.

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