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Nov 23, 2010 12:25 PM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Nice but who wants to purchase a rose that won't even be shipped to you for over 2 years? It sounds like they basically want customers to finance the import.
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Nov 23, 2010 3:15 PM CST
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I agree, Sue.

Steve, I looked at the selections and I'm really excited that they're going to add these to their collection, but I'm getting too old to pay for something now that won't come until spring 2013. I could be dead or senile by then. I'm opting for instant gratification these days.
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Nov 23, 2010 7:40 PM CST
Name: Gloria Levely
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ZuZu I'm with you I'v been waiting for one for 3 years so I think Im not on there list any more oh well On to better things Smiling
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Nov 25, 2010 11:45 PM CST
Name: Steve
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I'm old enough to see your point. The first rose garden I planted didn't look like anything until the fifth or sixth year. And it was not until year nine or ten that I started being completely satisfied with it. I guess that there are a lot of good roses that I might buy this spring from Roses Unlimited & Palatine that might start to have a real garden presence three or four years before the new VG roses. They are not yet even cuttings in France.

Still, if one is an inveterate rose collector, different/new has its attractions. And bagging a pernetiana or tea/noisette that's been out of commerce for more than fifty years might be fun.

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Nov 26, 2010 12:54 AM CST
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It definitely would be fun for me to have some of those pernetianas. I love pernetianas, but it's still too long to wait. As for different and new, I count on each year's new introductions to fill that need. No matter how crowded my garden gets, I still manage to find room for a few of the newest roses each year.

As for Roses Unlimited, which I love, I used to wait for the sales to make most of my purchases because the high shipping cost per rose seemed exorbitant, but now that some other nurseries are raising the cost of their gallons to $20+, a $16 gallon plant from Roses Unlimited sounds like a true bargain even with the $8 shipping charge tacked on to it.

I was sorely tempted to order a few gallons from Rogue Valley, but the gallon price has gone up to $24 on most of the ones I wanted, and that doesn't include shipping. In fact, it's exactly the same price as the RU rose after the addition of shipping charges.

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