Good to know Karen. What zone are you in because Siloam Merle Kent has never rebloomed for me.


Probably what it is Bobbie. Haven't a clue what you would call them. Thanks.

Hi, everyone,

Some modern daylilies do have a stoloniferous trait. About four months after potting up a newly purchased daylily, which I *thought* was Moldovon's "Mutton Jade," I noticed that a fan had appeared 6 inches away from the crown, right at the edge of the pot. This topic came up on the mydaylilies.com forum years ago, too, and a couple other people mentioned having noticed the same trait, both in pots and in the ground.

My story gets a little odd, in that when the daylily bloomed it clearly was *not* "Mutton Jade," so I contacted the seller and sent jpg's and finally it was identified as Moldovan's "Tae Kwon Do" - which in the seller's field was planted a couple feet away from "Mutton Jade." At least the mystery was solved how I came to have the wrong cultivar! : ) (The seller refunded me for the purchase, but unfortunately didn't have enough of "Mutton Jade" to divide that year.)

All the best - Elizabete

Thanks Elizabete. It is as I suspected. I had a couple more seedlings do
this too, but I didn't inspect them to be sure. I wouldn't mind seeing this
trait in some of the newer registrations I purchased, so now I will be
looking for it.

Also, now I need to come up with a planting design that will avoid seedlings
running into each other. One year, every plant that I dug and replanted in
the evaluation bed bloomed with two different plants. And, I was so sure
the clump was of only one.

This is so interesting and completely intriguing to me.
I will be interested to see what happens.

Daylilies are endlessly interesting that is for sure!

Hemlady, we were zone 5b ,in the revised chart i saw they changed it to 6[forget what letter]. I don't see how that can be when we can get temperatures as low as -20 to even -25. Not often but it does happen. Right now I have rebloom on Siloam Merle Kent, Orangatun, Skinwalker, and Indian Giver. Happy Returns, and Siloam Plum Tree just finished their rebloom. I also have flower scapes on Discarded Beauty [thanks Michelle] and Heavenly Doppler Effect just opened up today. The last 2 plants were put in this summer so not sure if they are rebloom or opening for the first time. I did put Bloom Booster on all the daylilies after temperatures cooled down earlier in september.That is what I was advised to use on fall fertilizing daylilies last year by the gentleman that has the local gardening show on tv.Of course I use miloganite in the spring and when planting. Do you think our humidity from lake Erie plays a part in rebloom? Karen

I don't know but you are very fortunate!!!

Karen, did you have very high temps during the summer? That is what I am attributing
to the differences in rebloom here this year. I have lost count at the times these plants
have put up a new scape. The high summer temps, then drought, then rain must
have shocked them into 'do it or die' mode. Well, maybe, since the weather has
been the only difference this season.

mistyfog, yes our area set all kinds of records for heat this year.And it went on all summer along with the drought. We finally have been getting rain the last month or so along with more normal temperatures. I did have some rebloom last year but not anything like this summer. Maybe it was the weather. karen

We had record highs and drought here too but no rebloom. I think I may have had 2 plants rebloom, besides the usual Happy Returns and Rosy Returns.

I have also had a plant send out a runner and come up beside the main plant. I have only seen this on one or two cultivars. I think some plants just increase this way sometimes. Not all the time just sometimes. But I have never had a plant grow from just roots, even if they were the bulbous type roots.

Dot

I have seen these runners as well on quite a few daylilies. From what I have noticed, when we dig plants to divide, is that these seem to happen because a fan is growing from the bottom of the crown instead of the top or side. It seems ,to me, that since the fan really can't grow properly to reach the surface of the soil it grows these runners to help accommodate the growth it needs.

I think you are right about this Michelle. You are so smart lol.

Dot

I found this last year when i repotted soooooo many plants. I think when plants are in pots, it's just easier to see. When I found the first stolon, I went to the AHS website to find out what it was. Once I noticed, I had a bunch of plants that multiplied like this. I'd notice it because they look like they are trying grow up the inside edge of the pot and not next to the other fan in the pot. I find it a whole lot easier to divide when the plants aren't attached to the crown of the orginal plant. This is why you are seeing more and more plants listed as 2 fans virsus double fan because they aren't attached. Of course the 2 fans could also have been broken off from the mother plant.

See, just when you thought you had found out everything about daylilies, you find out something else!!! Never a dull moment, well, maybe when I'm pulling that bermuda grass out of my pots, that's dull! blessings, Mona

Mona, last year when I dug some plants to ship, they all fell apart into single fans with their own individual roots. Others were so joined at the crown that it was extremely difficult to separate them while others simply fell apart when we were washing them. Now I list 2F when I list on the auction because I don't know whether or not they will be joined when I dig them.

Michele, I think you are on to something. The few daylilies that I have seen put out these runners were coming from underneat the crown and not attached to the crown like normal fans. Good observation.

I have seen fans growing from beneath the crown and haven't formed a stolon/runner yet and have broken them off accidentally because I didn't realize they were there until I had already slammed the clump down to loosen the soil or have started prying the clump apart and break them off. The reason I think this may be the case is because on some of theses clumps with the beginning fans emerging underneath also have some of the fans with the runner attached.

I list mine as DF/2F because of this also. If I'm potting them up as double fans and I have some single fans of the same plant I will pot them up together as if a DF, but will just make sure I list as DF/2F since I won't know what is what when picking them for orders. I used to try and keep up with the ones that were actual DF and which were 2F and write it on the pot tag, but that can get to be a pain when you have a lot of pots to deal with.

Maybe we are beginning to see a very recessive gene from H. Fulva
show up due to several generations of conversions multiplying the
effects of the recessive gene. Or maybe not. Just a thought.

I went on E-bay to look for daylily seeds and I found a Master Gardener selling daylily tubers (roots). He described them as the shape of a ladies pinkie finger. (sounds like a root) He also says he has propagated by this method for at least a decade. His feedback is like 98% so I really don't know what to make of this. He says they are hybrid daylily root tubers he is selling.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daylil...

I hope it's ok to post the link....I find it strange he is advertising seeds in the title, but in the description it is tubers that really are daylily roots. Hmmm...

I'm just gonna buy some seed, I already have my root tubers potted I'm waiting for them to rot or sprout...whatever they decide. It seems if this were possible, like you all have said you would have thousands of daylily just from digging clumps what with all the tubers left behind....

On the other hand, if it doesn't work, then he is selling trash...and would his positive score be that high if he sold trash?? Just curious.

Do any of you sell on E-bay???

Trudy, I was reading the feedback on this person and it's pretty generic feedback, mainly thank you or fast shipping and the negative is mainly about shipping also . Most people leave feedback as soon as they receive their package and if the said tuber didn't actually grow then the seller couldn't go back and leave a different feedback.

By the way, this is the same person that was saying they can grow these over on the Garden Web forum. I searched "daylily tuber" on eBay and this person is the only one selling "tubers". There is a couple of the auctions where there is a photo of these tubers and they are the roots.

Thanks Tink!
I actually wondered if this was the same person.
How strange....if roots don't grow that is outright fraud.
Glad I come here to get the scoop~!
I never thought about the fact that they wouldn't yet have known they had been "had" when leaving feedback.
Thanks for looking at it. :}

I wouldn't chance buying tubers. The ones I have found I haven't tried to plant to see if they grow or not so I would not waste my money.