Love the deep burgundy colour on this one

Steve

Alongside Romeo for comparison

Picked this one up for a few pounds . Anyone know what it is? I am not familiar with even the common echeveria 😂

Spikes 3-5 on brinks blue. Quite strong flowering for a plant in the uk
Steve

Steve, thank you for uploading images of your burgundy plant to the database. I took the liberty of creating a database entry for 'Antares' and moving your two images there. I think that is the right spelling (and not 'Antaris') because it is the name of a star, but once the database updates, either spelling should get you to that entry.

Baja_Costero said: Steve, thank you for uploading images of your burgundy plant to the database. I took the liberty of creating a database entry for 'Antares' and moving your two images there. I think that is the right spelling (and not 'Antaris') because it is the name of a star, but once the database updates, either spelling should get you to that entry.

@Baja_Costero
Your spelling in the correct one. Didn't know it was the name of a star either, so thanks for the education. Seems a faily new cv here.
Steve

Baby strictiflora hybrid 👍

cihuahuanensis I think

The molecular taxonomy of Echeverias (naming and relatedness based on DNA studies) is very unsatisfying. They and their close relatives are mixed up and the visible morphological characters do not necessarily align with the molecular ones. Word to the wise if you ever try to look this stuff up.

Anyway, based partly on this, two genera were recently created (though I wonder if they will be widely accepted):

Chazaroa - for 3 Echeverias that are more closely related to Graptopetalum
Quetzalcoatlia - for 6 Graptopetalums with half the usual number of stamens (5 not 10)



The latter genus includes the common former G. superbum, the former includes 3 species that I do not recognize.

Just a heads up in case you come across these new genus names. The second name comes from the Nahuatl name for the classic mythological winged serpent, which is pronounced ket-zahl-koe-AHT-l.

More details (mostly in Spanish) here:

https://onedrive.live.com/?aut...

Second subrigida was ready for a new round of propagation from bracts.

Closeup of bracts after cutting back the extra appendage of dry stem, from when I carved into the flower stalk around the bract to harvest it a while ago.



This shows the point of attachment is not at the base of the bract, but at a point above that. Part of why you can't just yank the bract off to harvest it.

I think new leaves or roots are already (barely) coming out of the bud at that point. The goal in potting these up is to put that bud at the top of the soil, with the tip pointed a little upward:



Fast forward in the cycle by looking at bracts I started a few weeks ago, just an update on something you have already seen before (only 1 of 4 is growing well but that's enough to pass on the last mother plant)



In the category of Echeveria-adjacent, two recent repots (6" size).

Pachyphytum werdermannii (product of first beheading, which I will leave alone)



Sedum furfuraceum (started from a cutting in February, overpotted at the moment)



It's pretty striking from those 2 photos how very small the leaves on the Sedum are.

Perfection!

I mentally wrote-off 'Neon Breakers' as dying a couple months ago, but it is looking better now that the weather has cooled a bit.

purpleinopp said: I mentally wrote-off 'Neon Breakers' as dying a couple months ago, but it is looking better now that the weather has cooled a bit.

Yes they are high altitude plants so they like bright light but not high heat 👍
Here ere we have neither 😂😂

My little cante plug plant has grown well despite the abysmal wet and dull summer . It's starting to look like the actual plant

Beautiful! You seem to have the perfect amount of light for great color on your amazing collection of pretty plants.

Am I remembering right that some high altitude plants can be offended by too much oxygen? About 340 ft. above sea level here, it's hot, very oxygenated, and very humid. An interesting bit of trivia, just a few miles away is the highest point in FL at 345 feet.

No wonder why my Echeverias just melted this summer. So now the baby survivors will be coddled. Interesting experience, I have a communal planting of desert roses seedlings. I just repotted them and since I don't like the dirt I planted some aloes and succulents so they enjoy the shade from the desert roses. They look healthy. I might have discovered a better set up.

Inviting succulent sleuths to lend their expertise on this multipart ID thread ...

The thread "Help with Succulent Identification" in Cactus and Succulents forum

My biggest shocker for the summer of Hades was Echeveria 'Lola'.

This is the only Echeveria growing here due to the past bad experiences with the high heat here in the summers. 'Lola' has stuck around for at least 10 years, with quite a few ups and downs, including repots and lots of near death experiences. I just gave up in the heat this year and ignored it......and it did this. The clay container is extremely shallow - less than 2" deep - and it dries out rapidly. So it was existing without water for weeks.

My past experience has been that giving them water in really hot temperatures is a relatively quick means of killing them - like,say, overnight. I quit trying Echeverias because of the losses. Interesting insert with my last electric bill advising me that I'm 'going to go broke and run out of my retirement funds'. It gave the average temp during last summer 2022 June through August as 101.7F. For the same period in 2023 it jumped 6.4F. I think last year was a record, so the Hades reference for this year. Didn't expect 'Lola' to look like it does after that. Or even be alive. Who'd have thought it would have managed on so little water? The average is for the whole electric coop district. I tended to run a degree or two higher this summer over the official temp for here, but that may not have corresponded all the time to the district. There were some areas south of me that were running higher than I was. Of course, averages are just that - averages.

Maybe I need to re-evaluate the Echeveria family, try again and give them somewhat harsher treatment. 'Lola' grows in dappled shade, but it's relatively thin and there is a lot of light, a bit of it direct. Certainly no protection from the really high temperatures night and day for a good bit of the season. I'm still seeing some triple digit temps and still too dry from lack of rain.

That looks great! There are so many diff Echies, I wonder if generalizations are worth much.

Hamilton's Echeveria Chroma is pretty.



Mine is also showing somewhat different variegation but this is not stable. This likes to be underplanted and likes part shade summer time.


This needs to be propagated constantly, once rot affects one, this will die overnight.