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Apr 26, 2024 4:01 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Apr 26, 2024 4:34 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Steve, that E. purpusorum looks wonderful. I should think with your greenhouse most Echeverias would love your natural conditions. They probably would react negatively to too much direct rainfall, but the overcast conditions and cool temperatures should suit them very well. Mine grow and look their best during the winter months when I can provide enough light. Again this winter mine was hanging outdoors while other plants were inside in winter storage. It's the only way I can keep it from etoliating. It insists on growing during the winter. They haven't loved the excessive heat of summers here. Only 'Lola' has survived for a few years.
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Apr 26, 2024 7:10 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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It surprised me that you can grow Echeveria in hot environment like Texas. I have given up on them, they just melted / turned black overnight, even they had been growing fine for years. Shrug!
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Apr 26, 2024 8:04 PM CST
Name: Donald
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Kaktus said: It surprised me that you can grow Echeveria in hot environment like Texas. I have given up on them, they just melted / turned black overnight, even they had been growing fine for years. Shrug!


I've found it to be a bit tricky when it gets really hot. They can melt overnight when given water, even though they look like they need water and the soil is really dry. I think if there would be a significant cool down at night, it would help. Unfortunately, the overnight temps staying warm prevent growing a lot plants successfully. A lot simply need that cool down period. That actually happens in the true desert areas, even in Texas. The day heats up to high temps, but the nights chill down enough that it's actually cool. In my area, the temps may not be as high in the day, but there's very little cool down at night. Humidity is variable here at times, but generally is on the low side. That is true for more succulent plants than just the Echeverias, though they seem to be among the most sensitive in my experience.
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Apr 27, 2024 8:45 AM CST
Name: TJOE
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I see, in here I don't see much chance of cool night during the hit days, it's better for me to stay away from the Echeverias.
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Apr 27, 2024 12:34 PM CST
Name: Steve
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I actually have struggled a lot with echies and I don't really know why. Indoors there is insufficient light so they stretch . Out in the greenhouse I lost a few this year , just collapse in a pile of leaves . Could it be high humidity or low air movement ? 🤷 I am getting something wrong for sure . The firm leave ones like avagoides do better but the wider leaf roasette types don't like me for sure 😂
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Apr 27, 2024 4:52 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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I am not sure either, but base on the readings here and there, I have made my own conclusion that they need a temperature difference between day and night, good air flow, and the temperatures at day time should not be extremely high.
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Apr 27, 2024 5:19 PM CST
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When I think of Echeverias I think of higher altitude locations in the tropics. Rocky places with some degree of seasonal drought, or unpredictable rainfall. When we went to Puebla to chase after succulents, we had to climb the hill to get to the point where Echeverias started. They get summer rain there and it is uncomfortably warm but not flaming hot in the summer. Cool to cold but not a lot below freezing for very long at night in the winter.

I would think lots of light (and UV) is key in cultivation, lots of exposure to the breeze, stuff I can easily provide here without frying anyone. My failure rate with Echeverias is still a serious problem, but I think it has more to do with particular needs of particular plants (and my unwillingness to alter my usual standards of care to compensate). Seems they vary quite a bit in difficulty. I just move on to the next one and see how it goes. Smiling
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Apr 27, 2024 5:40 PM CST
Name: Steve
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I'm going to post this picture here, but I'm pretty sure it is not an Echeveria.
I'm guessing it is a Dunce cap, Orostachys.
I'm not sure how many different ones there is. The ones I've seen where a blueish / gray color and the leaves where pretty thin.
This plant is greener and plumper leaves.
Any ideas on what it is?

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Apr 29, 2024 9:26 PM CST
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I do not recognize the plant. Have never grown Orostachys. The flowering will be radically different between the two possibilities you have identified, so you will know the answer soon enough. Smiling
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Apr 29, 2024 9:39 PM CST
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The plant in question looks like Echeveria prolifica. I might question if those objects in question are flower stalks at all. I cannot see the "stalks" in the picture very well, but to me they look like stolons rather than flower stalks. Flower stalks tend to emerge from the center of the rosette not so much laterally like what is shown in the picture. Echeveria prolifica puts out some very long stolons, which match what I see in the picture Smiling

Could you please share a close-up photo of the stalks so that we can better identify the plant?
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Apr 30, 2024 9:38 AM CST
Name: Steve
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Correct, they are not flower stalks but stolons.
Can't take closer pics....cut them off when I split and replanted. Whistling
I only have 2 or 3 Echeveria. Most seem to grow larger then I have room for. I need to research for some smaller growing varieties.
I didn't realize any Echeveria grow like this.
It does certainly look like Echeveria prolifica. One that stays small. 👍
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Apr 30, 2024 10:45 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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It sure looks like a prolifica to me.
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May 5, 2024 3:37 PM CST
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E. purpusorum looking a little stressed and deflated, but still green in the center

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May 6, 2024 9:18 PM CST
Name: Steve
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I know I've seen pictures here of Echeveria Lenore Dean.
Anyone want to share any tips?
This is my third and last time I will try this plant.
I've rotted the other 2 I tried. First one I was not careful and I got water on the leaves. The second one I was more careful about watering, but watered it every other week.
Planning on only watering when the plant shows me it needs water.
Planning on 100% pumice.
Bottom water only.
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May 6, 2024 10:13 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Baja it happened to a couple of my thick leaf echeverias too. I hope they recover.

Steve, that is pretty! I don't know how big it is, but ever since I listened to Baja about propagating by leaves or cuttings I now have more backups. Surprisingly the leaf cuttings propagate faster just being placing on top of any pots that require daily watering. I place them on top of mulch of my potted roses. Once baby pups start showing then I repot and keep moist. The base also produce pups faster that way.
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May 8, 2024 8:57 PM CST
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First flowers on this green plant (8" pot), quite nice in their own diminutive way.

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Evidence of spider activity always welcome around flowers in this family.
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May 9, 2024 6:58 AM CST
Name: Ursula
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I like that ! Lovey dubby

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