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Apr 22, 2010 12:28 PM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
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I would make the cuttings about 6-10" long and cut at an angle below the bud. That way the person who gets the cuttings has enough to make a couple of cuttings per piece of cane. What are you trading? Want to trade for some of mine?
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Apr 23, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: Angie
Concord, NC (zone 7)
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Thanks, Melva. Rose I have which are large enough for cuttings include The Dark Lady, Eglantyne, Molineux, Graham Thomas, Geschwind's Orden, Tropicana, New Dawn, Golden Celebration and Gertrude Jekyll. Later I should have Charlotte and Julia Child, The Fawn, and Celine Forestier.

Any of those do anything for you? I'd love to trade!
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Apr 23, 2010 11:55 AM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
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I would love some cuttings of Graham Thomas...what kind of rose do you want from me? I have many different classes...
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Sep 24, 2010 5:40 AM CST

oh dear oh dear....
First, I don't know much of anything about growing roses, I just do it and hope for the best! Now I'll add more information to my hoping lurking here!

I did not know I could start roses so easily! Zuzu, I never once saw a rose start from cuttings I left on the ground in Hoopa, and I was/am a not so neat of a gardener to not leave any hanging around ....wow.... There were at least 3 dozen roses on that place when I got there, some 20 feet tall with trunks as big as my arm...and I could have started some so easily? drat drat drat

Now my only rose is an Angel Face here, one of my favorites because she's purple and she's sooooooo fragrant that I get waves of perfume from several yards away. I got her at Lowe's last spring in a gallon pot. She's in a big planter pot now and has grown about 3', giving me 6-8 blooms at a time. I feed her with sprays of fish/kelp and occasional epsom salts and worm castings, and protect her with neem oil and DE. She seems to want to be a climber. It seems I read somewhere that all roses could turn into climbers. Is that true?

The Veilchenbleu is INCREDIBLE! Do you suppose it would do well here? Melva, please, please may I have some? Is now a good time to take cuttings here? I need to go read and look a photos to see what a good cutting looks like. I have some rootone but it's years old - I had no idea it would expire, but then, I never thought of it.

I remember my great-grandmother starting roses under muddy jars in the garden. Why did she do that?
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Sep 24, 2010 5:46 AM CST

hmmm...maybe my Angel Face is a climber and it just wasn't labelled correctly.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...Thumb of 2010-09-24/4paws/8ba096
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Sep 24, 2010 6:04 PM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
Birds Butterflies Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Container Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Npw is a good time..what cuttings do you want besides Veilchenblau?
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Sep 24, 2010 6:37 PM CST

Oh, I have no idea, thank you! Purple. I adore purple, and fragrant, but not too many because I have a lot of irons in the fire and don't want to be overwhelmed. I mostly have shade/part shade conditions left for planting. There is an old one I used to love that grew everywhere in Santa Cruz, CA - Tropicana - oh my! Do you have that?
Thank you!
Shall I paypal you postage or send it?
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Sep 25, 2010 12:22 AM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
Birds Butterflies Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Container Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I don't have Tropicana..I pretty much just have the OGR's...
I have a purple Gallica.the name is Canary Island...
Pay pal would work...not sure how much the postage would be.
Canary Island is a rose that was found in San Antonio so it has adapted to a hot climate, it would probably work for you.
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Sep 25, 2010 1:27 AM CST

hmmmm...OGR? I'm totally a rose novice, but I love them.

Canary Island is lovely. It says to zone 8b. Some sources say this is 9a.
I'll cmail you.
Thank you.
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Sep 25, 2010 9:57 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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I think ogr is own-grown-root
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Sep 25, 2010 11:58 AM CST
Name: Lisa
Cincinnati, Ohio (Zone 6A)
OGR is Old Garden Rose
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Sep 25, 2010 3:29 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Well, uh, no I wasn't even close. LOL!!!

I admit it. I'm a dork. LOL!!! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Sep 25, 2010 4:04 PM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
Birds Butterflies Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Container Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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An OGR is an Old Garden Rose...just means I have very few modern roses. Sorry to use a term where people had to guess....
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Sep 25, 2010 4:10 PM CST

hmmm....I thought Tropicana would be an old garden rose...how is that defined?
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Sep 25, 2010 4:38 PM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
Birds Butterflies Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Container Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Age of hybridization..generally before 1867..no Hybrid Teas are Old Garden Roses...
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Sep 25, 2010 4:40 PM CST
Name: melva wheeler
texas
Birds Butterflies Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Container Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Tropicana was born in the 1900's
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Sep 25, 2010 5:06 PM CST

1867...wow!
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Sep 25, 2010 5:09 PM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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1960 to be exact so it's just an older Hybrid Tea. Smiling

For hardiness zones, the minimum hardiness zones are listed first so for instance, a zone 6 means that rose will most likely survive winter temperatures of 0 to -10 degrees but not colder conditions. That info is based on the Plant Hardiness Zones system developed by the US Ag. Dept. So a given range just means it will grow fine anywhere within that range, pretty much most of them grow just as well if not better in warmer zones. For real warm zones, sometimes there are certain rose specifically developed for colder zones that may not thrive as well in warm zones without some winter chill dormant time and also some roses have very full petals and they may not open as well in high humid or real rainy season zones. (called balling) That is usually noted in various links. We find HelpMeFind.com to be helpful as many entries contain additional grower comments, not always though, especially for the more obscure roses..
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Sep 25, 2010 5:16 PM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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China roses are the oldest roses of the old roses going back many centuries, some can be traced back 1,000 years. No European rose can be traced back before about 1400.
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Sep 27, 2010 10:20 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Sue - Just a blurb here, but I want to point out that zone hardiness is not a very reliable as most of my roses are zone 6 and a few are zone 7, but if I stuck with only zone 5 and lower, I'd have very few roses, IMO. In fact, when I called Certified Rosers last year about Picante and what zone was it as the little paperwork on the bag didn't have any info, the gentleman I spoke to said that HTs will adjust to almost any zone above 3. For instance, HMF has BlueGirl at zone 7, but it has been one of the more vigorous survivors I have (http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...). Whether or not this is true, I haven't any idea. I just know what works for me. Maybe I'm special! I *did* ride the little bus when I was in high school....
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