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Feb 7, 2022 12:26 PM CST
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Photos of the Aeonium garden. Birds seem to love eating Aeonium sunbursts. Rolling my eyes. Confused
Not really much color, they are in the shade at this time of year.

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Feb 10, 2022 3:35 PM CST
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Taking some more photos around the garden. Glad I watered the plants..it got hot and quite low humidity just way too early. Thankfully it is still winter. So the growing season continues Smiling

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Aeoniums still doing okay, at least the breeze is cool, so they are relishing the sunny day Smiling
It is time for burgundy leaves!

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Update on the blooming noid..bloomshow in progress Hurray!

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This container has some Aeonium cuttings that fell or some that I have chopped off and stuck them there...most are doing well now.
No cutting is too small/short
to grow back again:

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Feb 10, 2022 3:38 PM CST
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I'm not really getting much colors because my yard is 89% shaded at this time of year. I'll have to try moving things to the front. Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 10, 2022 4:03 PM CST
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The light is starting to change again, so maybe with the passage of the seasons, things will get better for you. Our patio is already sunnier, less shade from the walls on the plants. I have begun moving some of them toward the wall again. The window for winter positions up there extends for 6 weeks on either side of the solstice, at least in theory.

We hit 82°F by noon, with 20% humidity. I think these conditions are therapeutic for the Aeoniums, especially before or after a proper soaking. Smiling These warm/dry spells are due to temporary wind reversals and they rarely last more than about 3 days.

These are the next plants to go under the knife (or scissor, as it were). Yes, that Zwartkop hybrid does have strong color, but it looks unnaturally dark when surrounded by its fairer kin.

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Feb 10, 2022 4:33 PM CST
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We are also having a warm spell. Temperatures in the 80-85s in the sun. Smiling
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Feb 10, 2022 8:04 PM CST
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There is a great weather site here

https://www.windy.com

where you can see these winds in action. For an example, zoom in on southern California along the coast from Los Angeles to San Diego, and look at how the winds offshore are currently going parallel to the coast, and not inland. Meanwhile the air from the warm, dry interior is consistently going in a westerly direction, toward the coast, causing this change we have observed.
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Feb 14, 2022 5:18 PM CST
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Two Zwartkop hybrids blooming in the public garden

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And while I'm at it, here's something interesting I noticed today:

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I will have to try and stabilize that to have a medial variegated Sunburst.
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Feb 17, 2022 12:20 PM CST
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That's pretty cool. It's half Aeonium 'Starburst', and half 'Sunburst'. 'Starburst' is apparently a slightly reverted, and slightly less variegated form of Sunburst. The variegation on 'Starburst' is in the center of the leaves, while on sunburst, it is on the leave edges. Apparently, 'Starburst' is more likely to revert to regular Davidbramwellii. For some strange reason, 'Starburst' is also being sold as 'Moonburst'.
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Feb 17, 2022 3:27 PM CST
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Yes, there are pictures of that plant in Rudolf Schulz's book, which was where I first learned about it (and how to stabilize Aeonium variegates). I would imagine that variation arose independently more than one time, explaining the different names. I have seen exactly one reversion of this cultivar since I got it in 2009. I stabilized the reversion and grew it to full size and took a picture before deciding it was not interesting enough to keep long term. Smiling

Speaking of which, 13 years seems like a long time to be keeping an Aeonium, with annual propagation for the most part, but this one is for life. Smiling
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Feb 18, 2022 3:03 PM CST
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More Aeonium Photos.
Arboreum Variegata
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'Dream Color'
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Canariense
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Mardi gras, plenty of color even though it's in the shade.
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'Ballerina' xSantosianum Variegata.
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Regular xSantosianum. Look at all that hair.
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Feb 18, 2022 5:01 PM CST
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Great looking close-ups of the plants!
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Feb 21, 2022 12:16 PM CST
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Curious, which Aeoniums have performed the best for you? And which ones performed not as great...
For me, 'Velour', and 'Cyclops' have performed the best. Undulatum is a bit slow.
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Feb 21, 2022 3:45 PM CST
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The easier question to answer (shorter list) would be which ones don't do well here. Most of the variegated plants I've tried (Emerald Ice, Mardi Gras, Suncup) are weak stemmed and prone to pests, as much as I like them, but Sunburst is neither. I am careful to keep the weak plants out of overhead spring/summer sun and I think that helps a little.

The longest lived Aeoniums here are Blushing Beauty (which has been in the ground for 11 years) and haworthii (which has been in a smallish container for at least 15 years). Branchiness is an excellent indicator for longevity. In that regard simsii x Zwartkop is really excellent and looks to be a really long lived plant in the landscape. It does well there (even with rainfall alone) but it looks terrible in the summer.

As a bonus feature for haworthii, it is basically the only Aeonium that I can allow to flower in containers without being concerned about bringing on a bug infestation (and not of the buzzing, honey-producing kind). Landscape plants can go to flower no problem because there are predators out there.

Cyclops is fine but it lasts about 2 years in the landscape before it's flowering for the last time, so kind of a lot of work for little reward, compared to Zwartkop and others. In that case the plant is satisfyingly large and fast, but maybe in a bit too much of a hurry to reproduce.

The fastest of the branchy plants to reach 12" container-filling proportions, starting from a single rosette cutting, would be Lily Pad. Aeonium nobile is also extremely fast from a cutting, but you usually have to core it to get that cutting. That plant behaves quite different in the ground here, with much smaller rosettes, much more yellow to orange color during the summer, and an extended lifespan (of a few years anyway).
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Feb 21, 2022 4:27 PM CST
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Interesting. Blushing beauty has grown well, but the colors aren't too stunning. Thats why I like Velour better. Same overall shape, better more vibrant colors.
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Feb 21, 2022 7:17 PM CST
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Yeah, the Zwartkop is much stronger in that one.
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Feb 22, 2022 10:17 AM CST
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Tabuliforme by Zwartkop hybrid is almost flowering. I'm going to have to watch the temperatures, it's going down to 32. Grumbling
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Feb 22, 2022 6:45 PM CST
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Full view of a landscape plant I've shown before

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The color is darker than usual for this time of year because it's been a couple of months since the last rain.
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Feb 23, 2022 4:15 PM CST
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That simsii x zwartkop is very colorful. Mine's almost totally green (overly shaded yard problem)

More plants that I am trying to get ID's on. Any ideas?

Aeonium 1. Similar to Simsii. But with much wider leaves. Maybe a form of Simsii? Same growth habit as simsii.



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Plant 2. Possibly a hybrid. Low growing. Likely has Arboreum in it, if it is a hybrid.





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Feb 23, 2022 4:29 PM CST
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No idea.
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Mar 5, 2022 9:05 PM CST
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Here's Aeonium Jolly green. A compact, heavy pupping, spreading Aeonium, with a vivid shade of green.

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