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Jan 21, 2022 5:40 PM CST
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I can't think that does anything to help. You kind of want the soil drying out in between watering, I think that helps ward off rot. A cutting doesn't need or consume any more water than the equivalent rooted plant (in fact the opposite).
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Jan 21, 2022 5:56 PM CST
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There is no need for that. Seeing you are in the tropics. If you are in the middle of the desert, maybe. I suspect cuttings will root better if they feel the need to grow roots to take in moisture and nutrients.
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Jan 21, 2022 9:44 PM CST
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With Aeoniums as long as temps here in my area has cooled down in late Fall it is easier rooting time for cuttings. Once dry and hot season comes..to save my own sanity, I just stick them in the soil and leave them be in part shade as they will not root, but will not wilt either, it just rests and wait it out to Fall.
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Jan 21, 2022 10:20 PM CST
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Tiny aeonium clusters has been more colorful now.
Used to be all green a few days ago Smiling
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Jan 22, 2022 4:56 AM CST
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Jan 22, 2022 1:38 PM CST
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That is a pretty amazing cluster, Tarev. Smiling

Regarding propagation, I thought I'd share some things I read in Rudolf Schulz's 2007 Aeonium book, which I highly recommend.

He lists the species and varieties in a couple of tables which allow you to distinguish some differences.

For example: "suitable for the subtropics" presumably refers to heat tolerance, as it includes the species from East Africa, plus gorgoneum and haworthii, but none of the others.

Relevant to this conversation: "mature plants suitable for pots" excludes a few plants, including nobile and urbicum, due to their size. I definitely don't keep any nobiles past a year or so in pots, it seems to frustrate them immensely.

There is also a table about propagation, where the relevant part is which plants are not propagated from cuttings. The only plants on that list are there because they are usually solitary. For example, tabuliforme and nobile. But as I have seen, nobile roots quickly from cuttings taken from plants forced to branch.

Also in that table, he mentions plants which can be propagated from leaves. Some plants are apparently difficult to impossible this way, others are easy. The only plant in the category of "high success from leaves" is tabuliforme; the rest that are in the realm of possibility are labeled "low" or "moderate". My success rooting 'Cyclops' leaves was quite good when I last tried.
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Jan 22, 2022 2:09 PM CST
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The flowers do form nice clusters. If you want to mass propagate, you can cut off each bulbil around a cm from the base, and root them like cuttings. But, you would end up with 50+ plants.
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Jan 23, 2022 3:27 PM CST
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Jan 23, 2022 6:43 PM CST
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I used to have Aeonium hierrense...somehow, 2016 was a bad year...I lost it as the dry season came about...too bad..it was a nice cluster of big Aeoniums:
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I also lost this other Aeonium, also a big one..my mistake, I deliberately decapitated it, thinking the remaining stem might make little baby aeoniums...big, big mistake... Thumbs down
It was growing tall and beyond the container, such a big rosette already, I should have just left it alone! D'Oh!
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Sorry, this is a show off thread..but best to know also what not to do in haste. Smiling
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Jan 23, 2022 7:05 PM CST
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Interesting. usually the bare stem will make pups. I would suggest doing beheading during the growing season, or the stump could dry up, or the pups could dry up.
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Jan 23, 2022 7:08 PM CST
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I actually did it on the growing season...just weird timing..the following year was not the best of times. Rolling my eyes.
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Jan 27, 2022 8:27 PM CST
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Baja_Costero said:That is a pretty amazing cluster, Tarev. Smiling

Regarding propagation, I thought I'd share some things I read in Rudolf Schulz's 2007 Aeonium book, which I highly recommend.

He lists the species and varieties in a couple of tables which allow you to distinguish some differences.

For example: "suitable for the subtropics" presumably refers to heat tolerance, as it includes the species from East Africa, plus gorgoneum and haworthii, but none of the others.

Relevant to this conversation: "mature plants suitable for pots" excludes a few plants, including nobile and urbicum, due to their size. I definitely don't keep any nobiles past a year or so in pots, it seems to frustrate them immensely.

There is also a table about propagation, where the relevant part is which plants are not propagated from cuttings. The only plants on that list are there because they are usually solitary. For example, tabuliforme and nobile. But as I have seen, nobile roots quickly from cuttings taken from plants forced to branch.

Also in that table, he mentions plants which can be propagated from leaves. Some plants are apparently difficult to impossible this way, others are easy. The only plant in the category of "high success from leaves" is tabuliforme; the rest that are in the realm of possibility are labeled "low" or "moderate". My success rooting 'Cyclops' leaves was quite good when I last tried.


Seems like my Goochiae leaf propagation is still doing it's thing. Rolling my eyes. It hasn't put our any pups, just roots. Maybe putting it in more sun will scare it into growing pups.
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Jan 27, 2022 8:31 PM CST
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I think the leaf base may need light to produce a new rosette. How much is another question, of course.
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Jan 30, 2022 2:10 PM CST
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Emerald Ice still doing its thing
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Miniature Aeonium looking leafy and branchy (8 inch pot)
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A nobile cutting from the fall that has rooted and is now growing fast
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It will reach about the size of the mother rosette in that 3 gallon container
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While I'm at it, here are Cyclops and Zwartkop (also rooted cuttings from the fall, also in 3gal pots)
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Winter has been good to these plants, but it would be even better if we got a couple more rain episodes like the one we had around Christmas.
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Jan 30, 2022 8:00 PM CST
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No rain up here. Stopped around Christmas too. It's not great for the drought. Angry
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Feb 3, 2022 6:55 PM CST
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Aeoniums in the park this fine afternoon, with some good color going on.

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That green one in the back is flowering like crazy.
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No rain in sight still.


I'm trying to get rid of my Aeonium Cyclops I have +/- 10 plants to get rid off. Shrug! Still waiting for some flowers to open so i can start hybridization.
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Feb 3, 2022 9:00 PM CST
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How could you have 10 Cyclops plants to get rid of? Are we thinking about the same plant? That is not a branchy Aeonium, in my experience. You have to want the branches, they don't just appear on their own.
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Feb 3, 2022 9:44 PM CST
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I just did a lot of beheading, and coring.

I'm pretty sure they're cyclops. They seem reluctant to branch most of the time, but I do get a few every winter.
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Feb 5, 2022 1:45 PM CST
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Aeoniums looks like they are ready to fly this morning Hilarious!
I guess they loved that temps gradually warming up overnights, shaking off the mid 30F's..now it is in the low to mid 40's..just a little more..

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