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Jan 6, 2022 6:48 PM CST
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sedumzz said:Eeks! I am really liking mini-aeonium recently . I will try to get more...


Maybe I can send some Decorum cuttings. Basically almost all of the decorum being sold is actually haworthii. The actual decorum is usually much smaller.

Since it's winter, most Aeoniums go into a pupping frenzy. A great time for beheading, and propagation.
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Jan 7, 2022 11:53 AM CST
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Here's the flowering short black

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Beheaded Atropupureum

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maybe this might be a good Database photo Baja? Shrug!


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Jan 7, 2022 7:01 PM CST
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Today was nice and cool, cleaning off so many leaves from the city trees that has been dumping leaves on all my outdoor containers..
..and got a good chance to get Aeonium photo updates:
Winter temps helps with its nice burgundy color. During summer it is so much darker..almost black by then.
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Leaves are narrower and longer, as the Aeoniums try to capture as much light it can get:

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This one has a stem with a nice cluster of little Aeoniums. It used to be that particular tip held the yellow blooms. I did not remove the wilted blooms, so the plant just resumed growing plants in between.

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Closer look of the cluster of small aeoniums:
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Purple edges still showing on some leaves...just waiting for better chance of warm up..no dice...we still have 37F to 39F overnight forecast this week.

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Smaller ones shows what color they will be later on:
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Jan 7, 2022 11:57 PM CST
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Just to add this photo..for some odd reason, one of the Aeonium rosettes (the one to the left back part) looks like it cannot make up its mind whether to open up or close down. It has not been windy, just cloudy at times or foggy...I guess it confuses the plant sometimes. I checked the stem, it is staying firm..so maybe it just wants to follow the sun in whatever way it can.

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Jan 8, 2022 12:14 PM CST
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I placed one of my Aeonium containers on top of this other container which used to have spider lily bulbs.

Surprise! One off season bulb came back, I guess it just wanted to taste the rain.

So now Aeonium rosettes are stuck in between the leaves, like a pretend new bloom of the long lily leaves. Green Grin! Green Grin!

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Jan 8, 2022 12:36 PM CST
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Uh...Um...Can we just pretend that the haworthii is the one flowering? nodding nodding Blinking


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Jan 8, 2022 3:03 PM CST
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Do you have any suggestions on what to do with this plant? It's just super crowded, and it's literally growing into itself. Rolling on the floor laughing Thumbs down Confused


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Jan 9, 2022 6:32 PM CST
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More light, more space, maybe? I realize light may be scarce this time of year but that would be my best guess.

Zwartkop was bending over sideways and I couldn't tell what the deal was, turns out just a bunch of branches needed space to all fit in. Big Grin This was a cutting I started in October, branchylicious because of a little extra space up front.

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Lots of branches all around. Cyclops too, but here's the head-on view:



And finally Sunburst, branching nicely at the moment, center stage against a succulent backdrop.

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I see a nice round deuterocohnia lump in the background there Big Grin so cute
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Jan 9, 2022 6:54 PM CST
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Well, I did some experiments. I tried rooting a totally green Aeonium cutting. The stem had no brown/woody parts. I was quite surprise when a lot of them started rooting. It seems, they take longer to root.

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An update on the Atropurpureum. One of the pups seems to be larger than the others...



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My own Cyclops, with it's parent, Undulatum. Anyone want pics of the Aeonium 'Voodoo'?




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One of my Favorites.



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Jan 9, 2022 10:52 PM CST
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Aeonium2003 said:Well, I did some experiments. I tried rooting a totally green Aeonium cutting. The stem had no brown/woody parts. I was quite surprise when a lot of them started rooting. It seems, they take longer to root.


Greenness is if anything a plus for rooting. Every single cutting I root is green at the base, ideally. When I have the knife out, I cut where it's green. Brown stem is old stem, and old stem is less likely/less quick to root. There is no advantage whatsoever to stem greater than about half in inch below the rosette for any Aeonium propagation that I've ever done, and that's about where the green starts fading out.
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Before and after the rain, in the public garden:
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Same plant on the patio, in a container, getting more regular water and a bit more sun protection.
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Jan 10, 2022 1:19 PM CST
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Wow the public garden must look super nice
One day I'll have to visit it..
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Jan 21, 2022 3:37 PM CST
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Interesting. I find that cuttings with the brown "bark" root faster. The roots grow from the leaf scars. On fully green cuttings, roots grow from the exposed cambium at the cut. Thinking

Anyway, here are some interesting Zwartkop seedlings. I found 2 types of purple seedlings a few days ago. I just found a 3rd type, with a reallly little bit of coloring. I can't wait for them to get growing. Been fertilizing them a lot. Foliar feeding for young seedlings seem to work well.


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Jan 21, 2022 3:47 PM CST
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Evan, what did you put in the media mix? The black organics ones.. Tx
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Jan 21, 2022 3:51 PM CST
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Oh. That was me being lazy. Those are the seed pods. D'Oh! I don't suggest that you plant the seed pods. They can get you mold and bad things.
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Aeonium2003 said:Interesting. I find that cuttings with the brown "bark" root faster. The roots grow from the leaf scars. On fully green cuttings, roots grow from the exposed cambium at the cut. Thinking


Roots grow from the leaf scars on short stemmed cuttings. I suggest you take another look at this. There is no advantage to burying more than about 1cm of stem, and there is no advantage in brown stems over green stems with respect to rooting. If anything, it's the opposite. There is some detailed discussion of this aspect of succulent propagation in the book on the subject by Kapitany and Schulz, which I highly recommend (maybe you can find a used copy floating around). Next time you have too many cuttings on hand, you can do a bit of an experiment to see what works best. I'm all for what works for you of course, but I don't think their conclusions are particularly controversial.
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Jan 21, 2022 4:23 PM CST
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I should have plenty of cuttings to experiment on.

May I ask about how you root your cuttings? Do you let them dry and callous over, use rooting hormone? I think It would depend on species too.
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Cut cleanly (pruners or a paring knife), allowed to dry a couple days in bright shade with good air flow (if I'm not feeling lazy), potted up with only that ~1cm of naked stem buried. No rooting hormone. Then into bright light but not a lot of direct sun for the first few weeks. No water for at least a week (depending on the width of the cut stem), then watered with the same rhythm as all the rooted plants.

I used rooting hormone for a while and then when I stopped cold turkey I realized that it made absolutely no difference for any of my succulents. I used to give all my cuttings this period of healing in bright shade, but then I realized it's totally unnecessary for the easier plants (including all Aeoniums) if you make sure you don't water for a week or two.

My experience is limited to a couple dozen different Aeoniums only, so I can't speak for all the species differences there might be, but I would assume they all work the same way when it comes to rooting cuttings. The most important thing (beyond the notes above) is to do it in fall or winter. So yeah now is the time. Smiling
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@Baja, when you root them, did you cover them with plastic like when you germinate from seeds? I saw a lot of people doing this to maintain the moisture. I tried it a couple of times but still can not come to a conclusion as the plants and the result somehow not very obvious
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