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May 23, 2013 11:13 PM CST
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Name: Toney
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Can anyone recommend some miniature tets with an eye or pattern? By minature I am speaking of the plant itself 18 inches or smaller.
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May 24, 2013 6:24 AM CST
Name: Julie C
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Using the term "miniature" to denote scape height might confuse a lot of people, as miniature actually denotes daylilies with a bloom size of under 3". You might go to the AHS Database and do an advanced search and look for Elizabeth (E.H. Salter) Salter's diploids. She has a lot of patterns, even among her older cultivars. Some of them would have scape heights of 18". I grow a lot of her small flowers ( blooms between 3-4.5") and miniatures ( blooms under 3" in diameter) that are patterned but don't know without looking them all up whether their scape heights would fall under 18". Some would! Grace Stamile has some patterned diploids also and many of hers would be 18" or shorter.
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May 24, 2013 6:45 AM CST
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Good suggestion, Julie.

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May 24, 2013 8:24 AM CST
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floota said:Using the term "miniature" to denote scape height might confuse a lot of people, as miniature actually denotes daylilies with a bloom size of under 3". You might go to the AHS Database and do an advanced search and look for Elizabeth (E.H. Salter) Salter's diploids. She has a lot of patterns, even among her older cultivars. Some of them would have scape heights of 18". I grow a lot of her small flowers ( blooms between 3-4.5") and miniatures ( blooms under 3" in diameter) that are patterned but don't know without looking them all up whether their scape heights would fall under 18". Some would! Grace Stamile has some patterned diploids also and many of hers would be 18" or shorter.





Thanks for the suggestions. Salter has some great plants. However, I am looking specifically for tetraploids. I was just wondering if anyone had any that they could recommend that stood out to them. These will be in containers so size is important to me. BTW I love your avatar flower. What cultivar is that?
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May 24, 2013 8:25 AM CST
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Name: Toney
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lovemyhouse said:Good suggestion, Julie.

I LOVE that dog!



He was 1 in a million. Best dog I ever had.
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May 24, 2013 4:51 PM CST
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Another suggestion is to go into the ATP Daylily database, pick "search by characteristics". Choose your desired ploidy, type in desired scape height - I did both 16 " and 18 " - scroll down to "bloom traits" and check "eye or band". Then go back to the top of the page and click "search". Both heights I used turned up a very nice selection of shorter, eyed cultivars.
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May 24, 2013 11:12 PM CST
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Name: Toney
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Thanks for that Char. I did not know that existed.
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May 25, 2013 5:52 AM CST
Name: Mary
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the "characteristics" search is one of the most awesome features of our database, I think. Thumbs up
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May 25, 2013 5:53 AM CST
Name: Mary
My little patch of paradise (Zone 7b)
Gardening dilettante, that's me!
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Char said:Another suggestion is to go into the ATP Daylily database, pick "search by characteristics". Choose your desired ploidy, type in desired scape height - I did both 16 " and 18 " - scroll down to "bloom traits" and check "eye or band". Then go back to the top of the page and click "search". Both heights I used turned up a very nice selection of shorter, eyed cultivars.


Char, have you ever submitted this as a tip? You could make it generic rather than DL specific, and all of ATP could benefit from it. Thumbs up
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May 25, 2013 5:03 PM CST
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Name: Char
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You're welcome, Toney and Welcome to the Daylily forum!

I sure agree Mary, the database here is awesome! The images alone are such a help when trying to decide what to purchase...or not. Seeing how a bloom looks, being able to read about performance and have other data available & searchable makes the ATP database a valuable tool for everyone.
I haven't submited any tips for using the database, currently I've been busy with other writing projects on my to-do list, but will keep your suggestion in mind. Smiling
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