I seem to recall @Avedon coined "polypellar". That may just be my failing memory.
El Desperado 4x4

Could be! That might be my failing memory at fault!

The 3 eyed monster
I thought initially this was a fused bloom but only has the one pistil

Regarding "polypeller" -I suggested the name for one of Dave's blooms and he thought it was a good idea, so guess this was a joint effort.
Spanish Fandango--this is a first bloom

Northfield--a five and two fours, common occurance on this plant

Northfield as a "six":

It's not always easy to see all the petals and sepals, kind of jammed up in there.

I like Spanish Fandango because it is fragrant.

Those are some wild poly, Dave and Avedon, lol!

A second bloom shows/confirms it is a cristated bloom with all the extra tissue arising from the mid-ribs. To be posted in June seedlings.

Today I had two poly blooms.

Polly Esther

Going Bananas

On Thursday, I had a polypeller on Tall Dark Stranger.

(Edit: I changed the spelling from "polypellAr" to "polypeller," since propeller has an -er ending.)

You know, those polypellars sure can be cute!

Zoia said: You know, those polypellars sure can be cute!

They can be! Now that they have a cool name, I'm more aware of them.

I was scanning my own Instagram, and I realized I had one on Blue Pools on Monday as well!

Avedon
At the National I was told that a six way Poly becomes a double. Would love feed back and opinions on that. I did not think a Poly was ever a double. I have been wrong before however.

Interesting. I have never heard that before, Larry.

I heard the same thing in the show judge workshop. I never thought of polys as doubles.

You probably never heard it before because it's incorrect. Here's a link to the Daylily Dictionary Polymerous entry...
https://daylilies.org/daylily-...

A daylily can be poly and double but needs to have the 4 whorl structure of a poly and the structural change to the 3rd whorl of a Double to be both.
Beware the Wizard is Registered as Poly, Double and also Spider. Image is a 5x5 (Poly) with 3 petaloid stamens (Double).


That's not a good thing to be teaching incorrect Form in an Exhibition Judge workshop!!!

Seedfork said: Avedon
At the National I was told that a six way Poly becomes a double. Would love feed back and opinions on that. I did not think a Poly was ever a double. I have been wrong before however.

FWIW the Daylily Dictionary definition of polymerous, to which Char gave the link above, has a picture example of a 6 x 6 considered to be a poly. It might be helpful to compare this with the definition of double:

https://daylilies.org/daylily-...

Sue, and others

Avedon said: Northfield as a "six":

It's not always easy to see all the petals and sepals, kind of jammed up in there.

Help me with this, in Avedon's photo I see what looks to me to be two petals in the center of the bloom(one to the left and one to the right) that seem to be a second whorl of petals. To me they look layered? Am I seeing that correctly. If so would her flower be a poly and a double? I think there is an ADS rule about how many extra petals a double has to have to be classified as a double for show purposes? Not sure about if it is not for show? I seem to have a lot of question marks in this post.
In this example photo I don't see a layered look, so this does look to me to be a 6x6 poly and not a double.
https://daylilies.org/wp-conte...

Questions are good, that's how we all learn.

I think part of the confusion may be in "how many extra petals a double has to have to be classified as a double" .
The answer is 0. It's not how many extra petals, it's the whorl placement of petals beyond the petals of a single flower (or having petaloid stamens) that makes a double flower/Double Form. A Polymerous flower is a single flower even though it has more than the normal 3 sepals and 3 petals, they are in the first and second whorls.

Single Flower Whorl Structure
first whorl is the sepals
second whorl is the petals
third whorl is stamens
fourth whorl is pistil

A double flower changes the third whorl to petaloid stamens or more petal whorls. The first and second whorls don't change, meaning there will be 3 sepals and 3 petals. There will be 6 stamens. A hose-in-hose Double will have more petal whorls between the stamen and pistil whorls.
A hose-in-hose bud cross section.


I can see what you are saying about Avedon's image and that those two petals looked stacked or beyond the second whorl, I don't think they are. They look bunched up in the second whorl, for lack of a better term , due to the size of the petals, folding and constraint of the perianth tube. Maybe "gathered at the top of the perianth tube" would be a better way of thinking of it, like trying to twist a large piece of cloth into a small tube.
Here's a simple 4x4 polymerous cross section showing what may look like "double petal stacking" or hose-in-hose inside the soon to open bud. When open this polymerous bloom could have had a layered look due to the left petal being out of a normal petal fold, normal being one edge on top of the neighboring petal and one edge behind the other neighboring petal. The left petal has both edges on top of the neighboring petals, but the base of the petal is still in the second whorl at the top of the perianth tube.


A 5x5 polymerous bud cross section showing the same out of the normal gathering of petals.

and the same bud cut just above the top of the perianth tube showing the actual second whorl placement of the petals in relation to whorl structure. I adjusted the image so hopefully you can see the parts better. Start with the outer sepal whorl, the sepal edges go to the center of petals. You can see the petals are all in the second whorl. Stamens are seen in the third whorl. Center is one very confused ovary.


If you look at Avedon's poly image, you can see the extras in the sepal, petal and stamen whorls - a Double would only have 6 stamens. It's a polymerous bloom. The only other option is a fused bloom.

A multi-form, having 2 or more recognized Forms, Polymerous and Double, has to have the floral structure of both, a poly and a double.
Poly def
https://daylilies.org/daylily-...
Double def
https://daylilies.org/daylily-...

Looking at photos and trying to decide which whorls the petals are on, or even trying to count the petals and sepals of a Polymerous bloom leaves me wondering why the word "evenly" was selected to describe the spacing.

That makes a pretty poly Andrea.

Seedfork said: Looking at photos and trying to decide which whorls the petals are on, or even trying to count the petals and sepals of a Polymerous bloom leaves me wondering why the word "evenly" was selected to describe the spacing.

The writing of the poly def was done before I was a member of SSC so I really don't know why it was worded that way.