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Growing Pains

By valleylynn
January 1, 2010

A plant clinic for Sempervivum, Jovibarba and J. heuffelii. This is a companion article for the Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum.

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Jun 15, 2011 6:19 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 15, 2011 1:35 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
I've been giving some serious thought to getting a garden slave. Just a bit of intensive weeding, some fence building, perhaps some digging, nothing much.
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Jun 15, 2011 1:41 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Garden slave - I like that term! Rolling my eyes.
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Jun 15, 2011 2:13 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
Hurray!
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Jun 15, 2011 2:25 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
I missed all the spring specials!!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
I want a house slave. I like the gardening. I do need some garden muscle, for the heavy parts I can't do.
I shall henceforth count you all as enablers of my collecting \"disease\".
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Jun 15, 2011 3:12 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Terri, right now that is my title, I would love to have some one to bestow the title on. Any takers? Rolling my eyes.
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Jun 15, 2011 8:28 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
I could use a house slave too - I hate house cleaning!

Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 15, 2011 10:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Looks like we are out of luck on this one Jacki. I don't see any takers. Crying
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Jun 15, 2011 10:36 PM CST

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I'm willing, but it requires a 6 figure income, 25 hour work week, 401K, health, vision, dental, paid winters off. Interested parties please respond via c-mail
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Jun 15, 2011 11:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Well, looks like I will remain a house slave. Blinking Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 16, 2011 4:59 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I actually don't mind cleaning, but obviously like gardening better. Whistling What I need is more time!
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Jun 16, 2011 4:46 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
Rolling my eyes. I agree
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Jun 16, 2011 7:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
valleylynn said:This thread will be devoted to experimenting with bolting (flowering) sempervivum. We hope to find a reliable way to save cultivars that are new to our collection, or that we only have one or two rosettes.

Here are my experiment plants:

S. arach 'Ali' 6/9/2011 coning, S. arach 'Ali' 6/9/2011 cone removed and the cone top planted to see if it will grow.
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S. 'Duke of Windsor' 6/9/2011 coning, Duke of Windsor 6/9/2011 coning removed and cone top planted to see if it will grow.
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So far the only ones I am having a problem with blooming are the arach type or fuzzy ones.



Both arach 'Ali' and S. 'Duke of Windsor' are showing signs of regrowth.
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Now the wait to see if they will be non blooming offsets. Glare
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Jun 17, 2011 10:51 AM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
So, just over a week, and it's already showing signs of new growth. Amazing. Can't wait to see if they are chicks!
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Jun 17, 2011 1:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I try not to go look every 5 minutes. I feel like a mother hen setting a clutch of eggs. Sure hope they hatch into lovely chicks. Whistling
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Jun 17, 2011 3:59 PM CST
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Plant and/or Seed Trader Sempervivums
Roses Ponds Irises Daylilies Region: Colorado Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I'm just marking this thread so I can see when new information arrives. My only Legolas bolted.
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Jun 17, 2011 7:33 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Was it a new plant this year Tabby? Have you cut off the bloom stalk? You sure can't loose anything by doing it. I am starting to see new growth on the ones I did one week ago. Keeping fingers crossed.
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Jun 17, 2011 10:28 PM CST

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Sometimes a flower spike will also generate offsets on the spike. It doesn't always happen but can. What I'd like to test for one of these days is does cutting the flower stalk off so that the plant generated another one increase the chance of it making offsets on the second (or third or fourth...) flower stalk. I really can't think of a good way of testing this other than trying it a lot with and without cutting it off and keeping some statistics.
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Jun 18, 2011 4:17 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
I did the surgery, and the flower stalk is producing chicks! How amazing is that?
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Jun 18, 2011 5:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Photos Jacki, photos. Please. Hurray!

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