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Growing Pains

By valleylynn
January 1, 2010

A plant clinic for Sempervivum, Jovibarba and J. heuffelii. This is a companion article for the Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum.

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Jul 3, 2011 5:50 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Took new photos of my bolting semps that I beheaded.
S. arach 'Ali' 7/3/2011, S. 'Duke of Windsor' and S. 'Hookerii'.
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Jul 3, 2011 6:07 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
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I don't even cut them off any more, just twist them. I've got pretty much all my Agnes going to bloom - well the bigger ones anyway.
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Jul 3, 2011 6:50 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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All of my Hookerii went to bloom. : ( I am hoping I will get at least a couple of sound offsets from this.
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Jul 3, 2011 6:57 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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This is certainly very interesting!
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Jul 3, 2011 7:25 PM CST

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When Hookeri blooms, it tends to set offsets at the same time, sometimes on the bloom spike. The rosettes are so small, its hard to tell how old they are. If you need more, Lynn, let me know, but you should see plenty of little ones soon.
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Jul 3, 2011 8:34 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I am hoping for just that twit. I won't pinch out any more bloom stalks. Just going to let nature take it's course. : )
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Jul 13, 2011 11:11 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Here are the results of my recent beheaded semps. Twit, as far as mine are concerned you are correct. They are still producing flowers.

Here is Old Copper and Zulu. Sorry about the lousy picture of Old Copper, but you can still see the bolting. *Blush*

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But here is Raspberry Ice that bolted - I didn't do anything to this one. It produced chicks before it bolted, one chick bolted but the rest didn't.

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Jul 13, 2011 7:50 PM CST
Henderson, NC (Zone 7a)
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Since I'm ignorant to all of this, I have totally enjoyed and laughed a lot. I'm loving the education I'm getting. Hope my old brain can keep part of it.
Hello Charlene & Charlie.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:29 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Hi Faye, I see you made your way to the bolting experiment. : )

Here are update photos of mine, photos taken today. Seems 'Ali' just more serious about making blooms. 'Duke of Windsor', I am still holding our that I will get at least one or two offsets. I know it's wishful thinking. *Blush* Looks like I have both blooms and offsets on Hookerii.
S. arach 'Ali' 7/3/2011, S. 'Duke of Windsor' and S. 'Hookerii'.
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Jul 14, 2011 3:13 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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That S. 'Hookerii' is so cute! Hope the offsets do well.
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Jul 14, 2011 2:09 PM CST
Henderson, NC (Zone 7a)
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The first time I saw the blooms I was so excited.......then someone informed me that after blooming the plant would die. Now, that was news I really didn't want. so glad there were enough "babies" to keep the jar full.
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Jul 14, 2011 4:43 PM CST
Name: Renée
Northern KY
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They sure do look pretty before they die, though!
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Jul 14, 2011 8:48 PM CST

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Here's a tip I'll share.

Once the rosette blooms are set, I now pull up the blooming rosette and move it to my "bloom" pot, which is a cracked 10 or 12" clay pot. The rosette continues to bloom and set seed, even though the roots have no substrate and the plants get neglected. I just stack the stalks together, so end up with a big pot of blooms and later, a lot of seed.

Getting the blooming hen out of the pot with the offsets remaining gives the offsets more space. Putting the bloomers together means easier pollination for the bees and more seed from the plants, all in a small space to make my job of collection easier. I'm hoping to have a lot of seed to share with members this year, later in the year.
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Jul 14, 2011 9:26 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Twit that is a great idea. I am going to need many pots for those bloom stalks. Right now the bees are everywhere in the semp beds. It smells so good out there while I am working.
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Jul 14, 2011 11:35 PM CST

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I've never noticed that the flowers have a scent. I'll have to check that out. Thanks Lynn.
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Jul 15, 2011 3:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Twit, it could have been coming from the near by sedum. I will have to check it out again. : )
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Jul 15, 2011 11:23 PM CST

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I'm going to stick my nose in my "flower pot". Better not be any bees there! Crying
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Jul 16, 2011 9:22 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
twitcher said:I'm going to stick my nose in my "flower pot". Better not be any bees there! Crying

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I went out and did a sniff test. Some of the semp flowers have a very light scent, but my little ground cover type sedum are sending perfume through the air. How heavenly the scent is. The bees almost seem drunk from the nectar.
Will have to get a photo today if it stops raining long enough for the bees to come out.
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Jul 16, 2011 2:56 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Rain? Drooling Drooling I'm so jealous!!! Hilarious! We have 99% humidity and temps in the 90's for the next 8 days! Thumbs down

My lilies are blooming right now and it's just wonderful to be outside.

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