Plant Database forum: Growing zone changing

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 9, 2013 4:51 PM CST
Dave it has come to my attention that there is a glitch in the sempervivum database. Not sure if this carries through to any other plants in the database.

If some one does an update on a databox it is sometimes changing the growing zone information without manually making that change. I tested it out after sandnsea2 made some proposals to add humidity tolerant to some of the sempervivum.

I backed out without making any changes to this entry. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Zorba')
I think I see where the problem is. Somehow there are two growing zones for some of the entries.
If you do an update to the info it automatically leaves the zone 5 growing zone for the new information.

Is there a way to make all Sempervivum entries have only zone 4? I'm not sure how many have two zones entered, or how that came to be. Could it be something in transition of the database to ATP?
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jun 9, 2013 7:14 PM CST

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Okay, I understand what is happening here. The select pulldown (not a checkbox but an actual "choose only one pulldown") is being changed from Zone 4 to something else like Zone 5. But then instead of the system replacing the zone 4 with zone 5 it is actually adding zone 5.

That would be a bug in the system.

Am I understanding this correctly?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Jun 9, 2013 7:35 PM CST
It's the only thing I can think of Dave. We seem to be acquiring more zone 5 entires. Is that how it's happening? But it isn't doing it all the time?

The link above shows 2 growing zones. How does that happen? When sandnsea2 made an entry to update S. 'Zorba' is when we realized that it has two entries for growing zone. When she does the proposal it selects the zone 5 to keep with the new information. If anything it needs to choose zone 4. But why does it have two zone for Zorba?
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When doing an update in info this is what is showing, only the zone 5 and not both?
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Is this something that can be fixed by just going in and resetting zone 4 only for all sempervivum?

Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jun 9, 2013 7:37 PM CST

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Zone 5a is already in the DB for that plant so it's not "automatically" adding it, it's already previously been selected by a previous proposal.

Is it automatically adding Zone 5 to other plants when you go to edit the data details?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Jun 9, 2013 7:46 PM CST
Yes, it is doing that only on the ones that show both growing zones. It deletes the zone 4 selection when you update the new information.

We have no way of adding two growing zones, so how is it showing zone 4 & 5 to begin with? All of them should be zone 4.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jun 9, 2013 7:51 PM CST

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If I'm understanding you correctly, Lyn, I think you have the same problem we once had in the Primula Database. The parent entry already had a zone that was added automatically to every new entry, but if someone added a different zone, the entry ended up showing two zones. If you're going to be updating entries to show a higher zone than 4, you'll have to remove the zone 4 information from your parent entry.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 9, 2013 9:30 PM CST
I want them all to have zone 4.
Ahhh, I see what you are saying Zuzu. That is probably what happened on some of the entries. I will have to watch that more closely when approving new data entries.

How did you get if fixed?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jun 9, 2013 11:12 PM CST

Plants Admin

Mine was fixed by a complete overhaul of the parent entry. Whoever composed the original one had a skewed view of primulas.

If you want some of the entries to have a different zone, you'll have to ask Dave to remove the zone 4 information from your parent entry. If it stays there, zone 4 will continue to be added to all of the entries even if they have another zone checked.

If you want all of them to say zone 4, then just leave that info in the parent entry and delete the other zone in the entries with two zones checked. You can find them by using the "Search by characteristics" feature.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 10, 2013 12:40 AM CST
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Thank you Zuzu. I will do that.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 10, 2013 1:05 AM CST
Done, and it wasn't to bad. There were only 28 of them.
Thank you for the help. Group hug
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jun 10, 2013 6:38 AM CST

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Thank you for that help, Zuzu!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 10, 2013 7:22 AM CST
nodding
All better. Thank you both. Group hug
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jun 10, 2013 1:08 PM CST

Plants Admin

Glad to help. I tip my hat to you.

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