Killer is a changing phenomenon; even in one pot you may have offsets in different colours;

I like to go through the rows of plants and see one in awesome colours or appearence and have to look who it is; and often I have to say - never seen before on this one

Peter,

Interesting that 'Killer' is behaving the same in Germany. The 'Killer' X self seedlings show these striking changes but interestingly the 'Jungle Shadows' X 'Killer' seedlings seem to be year round very intense, almost as though it captured one one of the phases of 'Killer', but these seedlings don't change much. In some of the other crosses with 'Killer' the changeable colors show in some of the seedlings but others also capture one of the phases of 'Killer' but in a more permanent state.

When 'Jungle Shadows' first appeared as a seedling I was amazed at how well the color held up. In those days it was one of the few that did have color all year. Most turned green. I remember my call from Helen Payne after she received that plant "We can sell LOTS of that one Kevin". Amazingly, 45 years later they still are selling it! In the seedlings from self pollinating 'Jungle Shadows' there have been a majority of seedlings that keep color year round.

Kevin

Kevin,

but what is better;

strong colours held up around the year or strong colours with changes....I like them both

only small colours and turning just green isn't very attractive for me;

a powerfull green around the year is also nice;

Peter

or a fuzzy green is fine too

gg5 said:or a fuzzy green is fine too

I love Fuzzy Green too!!

Peter,

and yes we almost have too many reds and purples now. I grew up when the "green with purple tips" types were about 75% of what we had. I want something different. I want year round color. It is interesting to me that it appears that the semps seem to follow two paths for year round color: ones that keep the same colors and others that change, often radically.

As I was looking at the seedlings today I'm very excited about some cobwebbed seedlings from 'Jungle Shadows', 'Harlequin Rogue', and 'Watermelon Rind' that I hope will be BIG and with unusual colors. Too many cobwebs look alike. I had self pollinated 'Kramer's Spinrad', which is one of the bigger cobweb types for me, and several of the seedlings are much bigger, already 4" in diameter from seed planted this spring. However, the biggest seedling has the least impressive cobweb at this point. It may be difficult to produce hairs of sufficient length to produce a cobweb on these bigger rosettes. The dream of a 9" purple cobweb might be a difficult one to obtain!

Kevin

Kevin that is a very good point, it would be hard to produce and maintain webbing of that size! I love the idea of more colorful webby semps!!

JungleShadows said:
The dream of a 9" purple cobweb might be a difficult one to obtain!

Kevin,

don't give up that dream - that would be overwhelming

It will come Kevin. I know your determination.

Well I'm sure the 9" purple cobweb is in that next batch of seedlings........ Maybe if I live to 85 I'll be able to get it. Actually I've been surprised what i have been able to accomplish in these first few seedling crops here in Oregon. Of course finding 'Killer' such an interesting parent has definitely helped in that cause. All but one of my new introductions utilize it or 'Jungle Shadows' or both.

Of course what we see in irises, daylilies, and daffodil flowers were things that we never DREAMED would occur. I think we have the same potential for new incredible plants. Compared to the hundreds of breeders in other genera we're dealing with a handful.

Kevin

I wish a Merry Christmas to all of you;

and here are my Christmas-presents ;-)

I like to present the new cultivars from

Erwin Geiger: http://www.sempervivum-liste.d... and

Volkmar Schara: http://www.sempervivum-liste.d...

have a lot of fun

They're beautiful!! I would love to find any one of those under the Christmas tree!

Merry Christmas to you too Peter!

with Chris. What a Christmas present that would be.

They are all beautiful Peter, but I find Urmel fascinating with those thick leaves, and the leaf shape.
And the seedlings of Gabrielle have amazing color.

Merry Christmas to all

What fascinating colors!! A visual Christmas feast.

Thanks for sharing

Thank you Peter! So pretty! I love the Orange one!

Thank you Peter.
My favorite: Very fuzzy purple one named Jim Knopf

Oooo! Pretty!!!

Hi Semps-Friends;

at the beginning of each year in germany we are voting for the

Semps of the year

german semps-fans have chosen their TopTen and out of this voting we find the ten aspirants - this year we have eleven aspirants because of equality of votes;

every semps-fan can take part at this voting;

you will choose 3 of them and give them 3 points for the first place, 2 points for the second and 1 point for the third;

the voting is possible until 28th of february;

here you can find the news about the voting:
http://www.sempervivum-liste.d...

if you want to take part please give us a mail with your three favorites, your complete name and your domicile; you can mail to Peter Dieckmann (banker07 / mailto: [email protected]) or Hans-Jörg Gensch (mailto:[email protected]);

Peter

Peter thank you so much for this post. On my way to take a look.

It will be exciting to see the results.