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Dec 11, 2013 11:30 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
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I've read lots of posts here on the rose forum and lusting after some of the beautiful plants I saw here and on the Palatine site. I've been afraid of roses for several years, planted 4 David Austins when we lived in Parker CO and not a single one lived, haven't tried again since! I'm thinking of getting several from Palatine: Empress Josephine, Erinnerung an Brod, Leopold Ritter and Ispahan to start because they're supposed to be very cold hardy and I love that full, cabbage rose look. We live in Elizabeth CO now which, according to the local nurseries, is supposed to be zone 4b. In addition to very cold and crazy winds it's typically pretty dry here. I grow lots of peonies and have built raised beds with driplines and heavy mulch, should I do anything more or different for roses? Should they be shaded here and if so, which part of the day? I would appreciate any advice before I manage to make a 2nd expensive rose mistake....THANK YOU!!!!
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Dec 14, 2013 8:49 AM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
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I think Skiekitty should asnwer this one for you...she lives in Denver.
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Dec 16, 2013 4:56 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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sorry, Liz - I'll respond to your Treemail. :)

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Dec 16, 2013 5:15 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
Annuals Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Peonies Lilies Irises
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Thank you both!
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Dec 17, 2013 8:18 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
Annuals Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Peonies Lilies Irises
Hummingbirder Dragonflies Dog Lover Daylilies Bee Lover Birds
I made my order from Palatine! Got Empress Josephine, Erinnerung an Brod, Leopold Ritter and Ispahan, looking forward to planting roses in the spring. Skiekitty, is it okay to plant them here before the end of April? We typically have at least 1 really cold, nasty week in May--will that kill a newly planted rose? The 4 varieties I chose were the ones that showed the coldest zones on their site, 1 zone 2 and the others say zone 3. If these do well I'll slowly make my way back to the zone 5s, those David Austins I killed really made me question myself! But I certainly didn't plant those as deep as you suggest so maybe, if all goes well, I'll try them again sometime in the future.
Thank you again for the advice and feedback on Palatine. I'm really excited about trying roses again! And I'll be haunting this forum to see the beautiful rose pics posted next spring/summer.
Now I just need to figure out how to keep the pesky deer away from them.....
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Dec 17, 2013 8:55 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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I grow roses in Utah....I would plant them when they come and mound soil or a soil compost mixture on them . Then remove it slowly as they start to grow and the weather improves.
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Dec 18, 2013 12:31 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Liz - Plant them as soon as you can dig a hole in the ground, then, as Paul said, mound soil or a mixture on them. What I've done in the past (and did again this year) is plant the plants, then put a bottomless bucket (I get big plant buckets, like the 2-3 gal black pots that plants come in, and chop off the bottom, so it's just a sturdy tube looking thing) around the plant, then fill the bucket full of mulch. Then, after I *know* there's no more cold snaps (4th of July Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing ), take off the bucket & let it go. I'll see about getting pictures tomorrow or so. I do this with smaller roses, weaker roses, or ones that I feel just need a little extra protection. There in Elizabeth, you have far worse winds than I do (I'm a bit more protected than out your way) and you have a LOT more sand than I do (unless you've put in topsoil), so that's something else you have to watch for. Horse leavings work great I've heard, so if you have access to that (which should be pretty easy to find there.. everyone's always trying to get rid of horse compost), I'd use some of that too (cow can be too acidic & burn.. I found that out the hard way, but horse isn't bad at all and doesn't smell as bad).
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Dec 19, 2013 2:44 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
Annuals Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Peonies Lilies Irises
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Thanks for the advice, I'll do exactly as you guys say when they arrive in April. I have tons of those plastic pots so I should be set! I really appreciate the tips, looking forward to getting my roses started!
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Dec 19, 2013 3:11 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Liz - take my advice on cutting the bottoms off the pots. Use a jig saw or saws all. Don't do it with snips by hand. BIG pain in the patookie. Use gloves & eye protection (sometimes the blade shatters, sometimes the plastic shatters). The bigger the pot, the easier it is. What I've done is raid Tagawa Gardens' pot takeback containers for larger containers. You can buy them too, if you need to. I know that Nick's Nursery sells them, but since old man Nick died, I've been disappointed with them because they literally doubled their prices. I don't think I bought anything from them this year at all. Now O'Tooles.. *sigh* love that place.. just sooooooooooo far away! Not to mention Timberline Gardens.. clear across the whole city!! The one O'Tooles is like on 100th & Wads & Timberline is like off of 46th & .. Kipling? Ward? Something WAAAAAAAAY out west. Practically in Golden.
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Dec 19, 2013 8:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
Annuals Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Peonies Lilies Irises
Hummingbirder Dragonflies Dog Lover Daylilies Bee Lover Birds
I'll certainly use the jigsaw, Toni, thanks for the tip. Bet a dremmel tool would work well, too! I'm kinda a pack rat so I have lots of the 2-3 gallon pots laying around, plus some bigger 10-20 gallon ones my husband brought small trees home in. Just need to get some cleaned out and prepped so I'm not digging, planting and prepping pots all at the same time!
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Dec 21, 2013 12:56 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Toni, I can send big pots to Colorado Springs next week, any chance you'll head down there in the next month?
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Dec 23, 2013 5:28 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Cindi - Don't need any right now. I bought a few trees this year & used those. Plus if I need, I just raid the one nursery less than a mile away. Appreciate the offer though! Was just in the Springs on Saturday to celebrate Christmas w/the inlaws.
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