Plant ID forum: Silene stellata, S. vulgaris or other?

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 30, 2014 9:44 AM CST

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It has been suggested that this photograph is not of Silene stellata but may be Silene vulgaris or other Silene. What do you all think?
Evan
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Mar 30, 2014 11:13 AM CST

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Hard to say from this photo. I can't tell whether any of the foliage goes with these buds, and the buds alone don't offer much of a clue.
Name: Lori
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growitall
Mar 30, 2014 11:34 AM CST
Here's the backup info that I supplied to support that this photo is misidentified (no point throwing this out there without context):

"This isn't Silene stellata. S. stellata has longitudinal veins on the calyx, which is bell -shaped. The shape of the calyx and the netting on it suggest S. vulgaris but I'm not sure. The photo doesn't show the characteristic leaf arrangement of S. stellata."

There are no buds in the photo, only spent flowers. Here's a good description of S. stellata:
http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/woodland/plants/starry_c...
Note the description of the veining on the calyx and the excellent photo to show it. Note also the shape of the calyx (campanulate - bell-shaped) in those photos and the following ones.
Additonal photos:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=silene+stellata&client=safari&...
Note that the calyx shape doesn't match that of S. stellata and neither does the netted veining on the calyx. S. stellata has a very characteristic leaf arrangement; unfortunately, the photo only captures some stem leaves on this plant.

Here's the description and photos for S. vulgaris:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=silene+vulgaris&client=safari&...
Note that the photos at the following site appear to have been taken in shade, given the lack of colouration on the calyx, but the description still notes "prominently veined, greenish-pink" calyx and the photos still show the faint "netted" vein pattern.
http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFind...

In any case, I'm not sure it's S. vulgaris... but I am sure it's not S. stellata!

By the way, thanks for confirming that the procedure for pointing out misidentified plants is to bring it up here or in Plant Photos. Thank You!
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 30, 2014 11:56 AM CST

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Thanks for the references Lori. Posting a comment about a photograph is a good way to draw attention to a potentially misidentified photograph. My personal preference is to post here in the Plant ID forum as many members haunt these precincts. If a positive species ID can't be made we have a genus level entry for Catchfly (Silene) to which the photograph can be moved, if appropriate.
Evan
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 31, 2014 4:58 PM CST

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I've moved the image to the generic entry. Catchfly (Silene)
Evan

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