virginiarose said:

Thank you!! I did have that on my list, now that I know it is not just a bag of poo! LOL. I have a friend that attracts worms with used coffee grounds. I will get the cow manure compost for now! Speaking of manure I still have and use the Milorganite and the daylilies love it, so do my Hostas. It will repel rabbits, squirrels and cats because they do not like the smell, but keep it away from dogs. LOL, they like to roll around in it.

Yes, dogs are a BIG problem when it comes to organic fertilizer. What they can't eat, they roll in!
(Why, oh why, do we love dogs???)

Another point being missed is the water. City water with chlorine could be killing off beneficial things in the soil.
People on processed water have had problems with horses getting colic due to chlorine killing off stomach enzymes.

Since I'm now just about eyeball to eyeball with my current daylily blooms (some over 51" and blooms over 6 1/2"), I don't think I'll be adding alfalfa to encourage more growth.
Not until I get these that have gotten super large re-located. (That was on Ocean Solutions, Milorganite, Epsom salts and a little cow manure)
What is the desired growth goal anyhow?

Yes, dogs are a BIG problem when it comes to organic fertilizer. What they can't eat, they roll in!
(Why, oh why, do we love dogs???)

My boyfriend Romeo rolls in all sorts of vile things but his mommy loves him to pieces anyway....

Did you mean your dog? LOL.

Just want to add to the Roundup conversation that DDT has been banned in 1972 and it still shows up in local river water tests.
It is not like we can use this stuff and it just goes away when we don't use it anymore.

I'm having 2nd thoughts about even using Milorganite since it comes from sewer sludge and so many people are taking prescription drugs, etc. and that will probably also be in the fertilizer. I probably will avoid it in the future.

During thunderstorms, rainwater enhanced by lightning, provides a 4% nitrogen boost. Maybe why plants looks so happy after a thunderstorm.
Hair is another good fertilizer. All the swept up dog hair side dresses the plants.
Coffee grounds are also super; plus, I just read an article where a solution made from used coffee grounds can help control scale that is killing sego palms.

My stuff looks wonderful after a thunderstorm!

Xena, is hair really good? I have three cats that excel at its production.

Glen, you should have the best looking plants around!

Gleni said:Xena, is hair really good? I have three cats that excel at its production.

Hair has been recommended by some organic growers as additional fertilizer for roses.
One even suggested collecting it from barber shops, but I never found that appealing.

With Rottweilers, there is usually a handful sized clump in the Rainbow vacuum water and I just dump it in the daylily bed.

I will try it.

This thread was to far off topic and needed to be split. The new thread has been moved to the All Things Gardening Forum here is a link to the new thread.....GMO's and Roundup Ready.

The thread "GMO's and Roudup Ready" in All Things Gardening forum

Hope everyone will find the new thread and continue posting. I was enjoying the posts and links which contributed to the thread getting to far off topic for the Daylily Forum...

Thanks Char!

Xenacrockett said:It is difficult to express my disgust with all the "engineering" done by Monsanto.

Many legislators and those invested in such companies only eat organic foods and that should tell something.