That's exactly what I'm talking about, Cat! When I was a "newbie" on the different forums, I was very impressed ,not only by those willing to share knowledge, but plants ,as well. It's a shame that things like this come along to disrupt this "family" atmosphere! I know many treat the "for postage" offers, or even trades, with newbies by asking that the postage money be sent first, before the plants are sent. Downside to that is there have been a couple cases where the "scammer' was the one "offering"! "You send me the money, and then I'll ship the iris". The money gets sent, but the iris never does! I guess the only way to "think" it's the "real deal", is to get to know the person involved, after "talking" to them, or with them, on the forums, over a period of time. I wonder if there should be , or even could be, a "special mark" put by members names, that denotes that member as a "square shooter", who has honored all the deals they have been involved in? Something like the "garden Watchdog", on the DG site. After some time goes by, and you have made several successful deals with a person, and you "know" them, trust is no longer an issue, but for the "newbie" ,it can be tough road to get there.....Arlyn