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Dec 19, 2014 10:35 AM CST
central Illinois
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Nice creation!
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Dec 19, 2014 1:48 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Della, I really like the pointiness of that last one on the petals and sepals. I don't know if the angles is what is causing it but the bud to the right also looks pointy and I find it very appealing.
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Dec 19, 2014 8:46 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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I like that pinkish child/grandchild. First flowers always make you wonder if they'll be the same in the future. I especially see such differences when grown in different/more stressful conditions compared to good conditions. It happens even with native plants. Here's an intersting one, Lilium papilliferum (and the exact same plant), 1 - grown in drier clay soil and full sun, 2- grown in sand and compost in part sun. The second flower is almost twice the size of the first, too.
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Dec 19, 2014 8:47 PM CST
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The colors are really nice too. Does it hold up well in heat? I really like it.
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Dec 19, 2014 10:07 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Awesome papilliferum Rick! Have you tried to use it in hybridizing at all? Have you any other plants of it to seed? If so I may have some worthwhile seeds to trade. Whistling
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Dec 20, 2014 4:23 AM CST
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Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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Thumbs up Huddo's SLG
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Dec 20, 2014 4:37 AM CST
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Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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Temma a lasting pendant
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Dec 20, 2014 5:23 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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Hurray! Is Temma a little fasciated this year?

Thanks for the nice comments, folk. Wow, that L. papilliferum... WOW. It's the species at the top of my wish-to-acquire-for-hybridising list. What a gorgeous specimen.

My seedling, when it first flowered, was totally malnourished. Growing in almost nothing but coarse sand. All the coir peat and any organic material/compost had washed out of the media. It's dramatic what a good feed can do! Hilarious!
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Dec 20, 2014 5:55 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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My surprise for the day; a little up-facing lily that came from an up-facing flat red pod parent and dusky pink 1c pollen:

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Dec 20, 2014 6:07 AM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Della, it almost looks like an inverted golden gleam.
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Dec 20, 2014 7:50 AM CST
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The Aussie lily show is awesome. Loving the truly garden specimens. The b/c orientation is so garden treasured and appealing. And the colors on your seedlings are stunning. Keep them coming I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 20, 2014 8:34 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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It will be interesting to see what color the rest of the seed lot produces Confused
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Dec 21, 2014 12:01 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
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Temma is quite pretty, and interesting, too. It's like it wants to be a martagon: the inflorescence is long and narrow, no secondaries, with smaller flowers and the halos around the petal spots are more of a martagon trait than an asiatic.
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Dec 21, 2014 12:56 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
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Joebass said:Awesome papilliferum Rick! Have you tried to use it in hybridizing at all? Have you any other plants of it to seed? If so I may have some worthwhile seeds to trade. Whistling


Of course, it's always the better one that I lost. This is a pic (2006) of it in the heavy clay soil, when it grew with the other shown as a small flowered one above:
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L. papilliferum doesn't seem to be closely related to anything I have, at least that blooms when it does. It blooms later, after all my asiatics are finished, except L. leichtlinii. I haven't had a lot of experience spreading pollen around yet, but last year my efforts with White Henryi, Kushi Maya and Lilium leichtlinii didn't produce a pod at all. Not that I expected it to, but I thought I might at least get a deformed pod on L. leichtlinii.

Now I only have one blooming clone, but where I have it now, it seem to be flourishing, although it is still temperamental. The beauteous pic above was a flower from 2013. Honest, it really was that dark. This is how it looked in 2014. I don't think it liked the extra 10 inches of rain above normal that we experienced the first half of the summer.
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It has nice floral genes, but doesn't seem to have anything to add to the rest of the plant. The black arrow shows the flowering stalk. The species likes to wander underground, and all the stems nearby, except the two tall ones with blue arrows, are more of the same clone. I don't know how many have their own bulbs, or if they all come from the same bulb. Time will tell. Foliage in the second and third pic.
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Dec 21, 2014 3:16 AM CST
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Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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Temma is a lasting lily Rick I was very impressed with it .. Della , at 1st when you asked if Temma was fascinated , I thought you were bonkers! I thought it was naturally overloaded.. but Man , you are right on the pulse Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up at the very highest crux , there is a 'fork' Slight tip fasciation I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 23, 2014 7:02 PM CST
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
Merry Christmas to one and all, no matter how you may celebrate the festive season
and don't forget to donate blood.
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Different latitudes, different attitudes
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Dec 23, 2014 9:42 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Great trumpets Paul! They have a nice color and flower form.
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Dec 24, 2014 4:07 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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Sold lilles up until 6pm At the Granada Tavern Car park.. [Across from MONA]. I know ,I've made a few peoples Christmas. .. Later ,Dropped 3 off to my Aunty , who lost her Husband 13 months ago.. No fuss, ''there you go '' I said '' from a grey bearded 'ol stooge , who looks a bit like Santa Claus''.. My Turkey is stuffed , 'like me'- The Ham has been 'CRACKED' & bagged.. Grandaughters playhouse is done .. 'I became a carpet layer today'.. will grab a fresh sprig o mint in the morning , for the Pink Eye spuds.. Monster Tiger Prawns Thumbs up & we are cookin' for a monster Christmas feast.... My Mother in laws famous later words were ''You only live once , so live it up''.. Merry Christmas Everybody!!!! Sighing!
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Dec 24, 2014 6:25 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Wonderful, Anthony!

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Angel
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Dec 24, 2014 7:54 AM CST
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I agree Sounds like a very nice Christmas. Enjoy everyone!

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