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Nov 17, 2014 11:24 PM CST
central Illinois
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Those are probably glacial erratics - when ever glaciers retreat they dump their load of rocks.
Glaciers are responsible for making the soil here in Illinois (and Iowa) the best in the world.
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Nov 18, 2014 9:24 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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How does that work? What makes the glacial deposits enrich the soil? Is it the rock content?
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Nov 18, 2014 10:54 AM CST
central Illinois
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Pulverized rock is part of it. Ice age glaciers were awesome creatures, some up to 8000' high.
The glaciers (4 for Illinois) of the Ice Ages formed the soils and terrain of Illinois. The northeastern and central areas of the state are very flat where the last glacier ground up rock and soil in its path. It deposited sand, gravel, dirt, and some rocks from farther north when it melted. Dust and sand also blew onto land surrounding the edges of the glaciers. All these deposits (loess and till primarily) make up the fertile soil of the central area.
Loess covers most of Illinois, in some places reaching a depth of more than 20 feet. It is rich in minerals, contains no rocks, and has a uniform texture that retains moisture - all qualities of good soil for growing crops.
Till - As the ice front receded, leaving an average of a 100-foot thick layer of sediment. As the ice sheet melted and receded, this sediment of clay, sand, gravel, pebbles, and rocks was dropped and packed down over the bedrock. It is called till, which is material directly deposited and covered by series of glacial ice sheets.
Some publications from the Illinois State Geological Survey discuss this well; if I can locate one I'll send you a link.
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Nov 18, 2014 11:07 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Thanks. I find it all so interesting.

Many links and photos: https://www.google.com/webhp?s...
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Nov 18, 2014 11:21 AM CST
central Illinois
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Loess - also, name of the rock and mineral club in Springfield, Il.
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Nov 18, 2014 11:28 AM CST
central Illinois
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Nov 18, 2014 12:25 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Found the Laurentide ice sheet that covered Long Island:
http://www.wesleyan.edu/ctgeol...
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Nov 18, 2014 1:09 PM CST
central Illinois
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Interesting, nice site. Geology is in my blood.
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Nov 18, 2014 3:02 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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It has to be better than cholesterol!

Some smooth beach stones and odd pieces of slate come in handy to mark major roots to let me know I do not have vacancies but roots that make digging impossible.
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Nov 18, 2014 3:50 PM CST
central Illinois
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Innovative!
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Nov 18, 2014 8:15 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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jmorth said:Interesting, nice site. Geology is in my blood.


Thank you for explaining glacier activity so well. I live in Trinity County, CA and have been told that the glaciers of the ice age stopped at about 1000 feet higher elevation than where my property is located. I've tried to do some research to understand the geography of this area, but there's a lot to learn.

Smiles,
Lyn
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Nov 19, 2014 12:09 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
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I've read that the "best" source for gardeners' rock dust is glacial till.

The huge variety of minerals plowed up from all over the far north assures that every micronutrient is present.

At least we don't have to pay for the gasoline or diesel fuel to haul all those boulders, stones, rocks, gravel, grit and sand south.
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Nov 19, 2014 12:14 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Here we do pay for gravel, stones, rocks and boulders but not beach stones.
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Nov 19, 2014 2:35 PM CST
Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
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Glaciers are the gizzard of the environment. Once a rock is fully digested it becomes loess, when the work isn't finished it remains a profanity...
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Nov 19, 2014 3:03 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Maybe that's why much of the south has such pitiful soil (other than areas adjacent to major rivers, areas called "Delta"). I guess the glaciers never made it here to Mississippi. Sticking tongue out
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Nov 19, 2014 4:14 PM CST
central Illinois
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I think they only made it to Southern Illinois mid continent wise. Alluvial deposits is what you've got down there.
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Nov 19, 2014 4:24 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Well, Alluvial deposits must have been the leftovers then. My yard has perhaps an inch of topsoil and then 20-40 feet of terrible, horrible clay. That's why pine trees seem to flourish down here. Their roots can penetrate that clay. The flooding of our rivers, year after year, decade after decade, century after century has deposited the great, Alluvial soil, and that's why our Delta region has such great farmland. Now that flooding is controlled to a great extent, and no more deposits will be had. Though we are 300 miles north of the coast, lots of seashells are found up here, so eons ago, we were covered by a great ocean.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Nov 19, 2014 5:08 PM CST
central Illinois
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Once upon a time there was an inland sea up to central Illinois, we're talking millions of years ago. I collect geodes up here and often get fossils from adjacent strata. Most of the fossils I get are of Mississippian age (long, long ago). They are all from creatures.of the sea...crinoids, bivalves, corals and the like.
(an example is the fossil shoe found in a post above)

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Thumb of 2014-11-19/jmorth/8a128e crinoids

Thumb of 2014-11-19/jmorth/e1bb0b 2" high Horn Coral
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Nov 19, 2014 5:09 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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@frankrichards16 see what you started? Rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 19, 2014 5:15 PM CST
central Illinois
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Went on a tangent...
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