Exactly, Annette - never ever give up. My huge pot of Crystal Fountain was merely twigs without a spot of green this year. Now I can spot about 2" of green growth - hurray!
I had one in a pot that I dont see any growth. I am going to take it out and see if I have any roots going.
I duchess of albany is out of control too It went up and over herself on the trellis. I cut her back hard and she still grew so much. I see I have to move her somewhere she can grow up a tree or something really tall.
Could be Arlene. This clem is old old, planted when my kids were small and they are twenty some now. Is Ruutel an old cultivar, will look in data base? Really looks like a match. In the old days never saved the name of stuff I planted.