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Feb 1, 2015 8:54 AM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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On a light note, if I may relate my own experience regarding Potato growing:

Some years ago husband and I tried our hands at this. We bought a bag of beautiful seed potatoes and decided to grow them in a nice corner in our backyard. Now this corner had super rich soil, it was years ago a small in- ground pond for Waterlilies and Lotus and when we dismantled it, we filled up the hole with leaves in the Fall. Several years later - here came the potatoes ( and also Tomatoes, but that is another story Smiling )
Growing up in East Germany, where so many people grew their own food in those years, we remembered the small hills of soil surrounding each plant, and we knew that harvest time came in the Fall, when the green plants had died down.
Well, the potatoes started to produce green tops and bloomed very nicely! And the plants grew and grew!! Ohh, they grew very well, they engulfed the whole corner!!
Then came Fall, we waited for those darn plants to die down already, but no, they still grew and bloomed happily. It must have been a warm Fall.
Finally, we pulled up the plants and happily harvested!
ONE SMALL POTATO!!
I want you to know, I planned a whole meal around it with this potato as the center piece, set the table properly with candles, the whole works, surely you can picture this?
We shared that potato properly as we took it apart daintily with knife and fork.
Lesson learned, surely the soil was way too nitrogen-rich and in future years I stuck to growing Orchids and C&S .
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Feb 1, 2015 9:41 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Ursula, that would be very disappointing !! Rolling my eyes.

I'm not sure if this is a well-known fact about potatoes, but I only learned it a few years ago so will mention it here: when you plant your "seed potato," all the potatoes that plant produces will be above the level of the "seed". Hilling soil (or straw, or whatever) around the plants as they grow taller will encourage them to put out roots along the stems and form more potatoes. Don't allow potatoes to show through the top or the skins will turn green and bitter.
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Feb 1, 2015 10:16 AM CST
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Ursula, that is so funny! I was rather ceremonious about my first meal from the garden last spring, it all centered around snap peas.

Sandy, I'm glad you mentioned that. I did hill them up, but I think more would have helped. I've got a perfect situation for trenching with this loose compost. I've been prepping beds, so next will be getting those trenches dug nice and deep. I want to be ready to hit the ground running when spring finally does get here! LOL
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Feb 1, 2015 10:44 AM CST
Name: Tom
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Too funny Ursula! Hilarious! I have heard of people using old tires and planting the potato, and then adding a tire, and filling with soil as the potato vine grows, and keep adding tires and soil. The idea is to have lots of potatoes from one plant. I never tried this, so I don't know if it really works. I do know that what sandy says works, as that's why I hill mine. I think the trench idea is good too, will have to try that. I have an attachment (looks like a V plow) for the back of my tiller that digs a trench.
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Feb 1, 2015 11:30 AM CST
Name: Mary Stella
Chester, VA (Zone 7b)
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This reminds me that I need to call Mill and Feed to see when the seed potatoes will arrive. I always get there too late to have much choice. All the good ones are gone. Or at least the ones I want
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Feb 1, 2015 12:09 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I just made out my Jung's order, and ordered some German Butterball, At 10.95 for 3 LB. they better be good. Hilarious!
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Feb 1, 2015 12:21 PM CST
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Tom, how do you hold seed potatoes till June if they're sprouting and getting soft?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Feb 1, 2015 7:01 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Ah - pardon my jumping in here, Neal, but I have an answer for that... interestingly, spread your potatoes out on a shelf, table or whatever where they get some light (preferably in a relatively cool area)... in the dark they get long sprouts, but in the light the sprouts stay short, and it doesn't matter that the potatoes get a little shriveled. Just one more thing that I've learned in the last few years. Smiling
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Feb 2, 2015 4:43 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Good to know Sandy, but I usually get new seed potatoes each year. I've found that the ones I save work for another year, but after that they haven't been so good. Don't know why that is, but it's happened a few times now, so I don't save them any more. The last time I used them I had gotten new ones and had room for 6 more hills, so I used 6 of my left over ones, They were in the same row, and got the same treatment, and were the same cultivar. The 6 turned out having really small and poor quality potatoes, while all the others were great. I can't explain it, it shouldn't do that.
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Feb 2, 2015 5:06 AM CST
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Thanks Sandy! While we normally don't want them exposed to light and turning green, it wouldn't matter with the seed potatoes anyway- good idea.

Tom, that's odd, sure makes me curious as to the cause. Do you just try and wait to get your seed potatatoes? They're selling out in May here, but maybe mail order companies would allow me to choose a later ship date.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Feb 2, 2015 8:36 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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That's interesting about your potatoes, Tom -- I think last year was just the 2nd, possibly the 3rd, year for growing my own Red Gold potatoes; maybe I'll get a few new ones to grow for comparison this year!
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Feb 2, 2015 10:17 AM CST
Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
Old, fat, and gardening in OH
Gemini, It is the middle of the winter doldrums. If you would like some winter reading check out Tom Wagner and his True Potato Seeds, (TPS)
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Feb 2, 2015 10:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Tom, it is indeed the winter doldrums! Thanks, I will check that out Thumbs up
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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May 30, 2016 5:36 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
tveguy3 said:Good to know Sandy, but I usually get new seed potatoes each year. I've found that the ones I save work for another year, but after that they haven't been so good. Don't know why that is, but it's happened a few times now, so I don't save them any more. The last time I used them I had gotten new ones and had room for 6 more hills, so I used 6 of my left over ones, They were in the same row, and got the same treatment, and were the same cultivar. The 6 turned out having really small and poor quality potatoes, while all the others were great. I can't explain it, it shouldn't do that.

I always plant my left-overs as I hate to throw them away, this year that is all I planted.
Yield will depend on the size of the left-over potato and variety, although there is no sure fire thing.

With left overs I never cut the potato, just put the whole thing into the ground. (With purchased seed I now keep the cut pieces far larger than I used to and often put whole potatoes in depending on strength of sprouts showing.)
If I have small ones, size of a ping-pong ball or smaller I sometime put two or three in the same hole.
As I said in another thread I have found planting deep gives the greatest yield.

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Mine went into the dirt late but still early enough that I had to drag the pots out the garage door to the sun on the driveway and then put them back at night. Not that they would freeze, but I wanted to soil to stay as warm as possible. So I would say 4 weeks from last frost. May 31 is the date we use, although I haven't seen a frost that last in as far as I can remember.


Potatoes like warm soil for planting but need cool, moist soil for producing tubers.
IF the soil gets too warm you will get healthy plants and few, small or zero tubers.
If you have black pots that suck up heat, soil will get too warm too easily.
For large potatoes there should me a minimum of 14 inches between the plants and the wall of the container.
For long term keeping potatoes the old standard is let them sit in the ground for two weeks after plants die off, break off large chunks of dirt but DO NOT WASH.
I leave my potatoes lie in the grass over-night after digging depending on how many I dig that day.
My dad used to put them in an old wash tub filled DRY sand in out cellar, and it was a true cellar not a basement where on occasion the pipes would freeze if the cellar vent was not closed tight enough.
At mid forties temp. they kept very well.
You can eat the green ones, unless you snack on raw potatoes, which actually taste quite good, just peel them in the normal manner or it you bake them scrub them with a coarse scrubbing pad.
Same for those with scab, just give them a good scrubbing and bake away but potatoes bake far, far better in a standard oven than a micro-wave.
Do not wrap them in aluminum foil, if you like tasty potato skins, and bake them hot and hard but use a pointed knife to test.
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Jun 1, 2016 5:24 PM CST

HELLO EVERYONE: I AM DOING POTATOES IN SCAPPOOSE COLUMBIA COUNTY, OREGON, THIRTY MILES NORTH OF PORTLAND ON 2.6 ACRES. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS NOW TO SUPPLY THE FOOD BANK IN ST. HELENS, OREGON. HAVE CHOSEN ONLY TO GROW DARK RED NORLAND SEEDS. THIS YEAR 300 LBS HAVE BEEN PLANTED. MY METHOD IS A SIMPLE ONE IN WHICH I DIG A TRENCH 6-7 INCHES DEEP, AND SHAKE IN TRIPLE 16 FERTILIZER, AND TOP OFF WITH A SMALL LAYER OF PEATMOSS TO PROTECT THE SEED SECTIONS UNTIL THE ROOTS GROW ENOUGH TO REACH IT. COVER EACH TWO EYE DUSTED WITH SEVIN WITH 2-4 INCHES OF DIRT, AND THEN PRESS THE TOP OF EACH ROW WITH MY FOOT TO REMOVE THE AIR. THE SEEDS ARE PLANTED BY HAND AT LEAST 10-12 INCHES APART. A GOOD SOAKING OF WATER HELPS TO START THE GROWING PROCESS. IT IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THE WATERING ACCORDING TO A WATER MOISTURE METER. RIGHT NOW I HAVE 26 ROWS WITH 17 VERY GREEN PLANTS UP. THESE POTATOES ARE THE BAKING TYPE, AND HAVE A FLAVOR ONE DOES NOT WANT TO LEAVE. HARVESTING FOR ME IS WHEN THE PLANT MATERIAL BEGINS TO DIE. ONE CAN CHEAT SOME, AND HAND DIG UNDER A PLANT TO GET A FEW FOR A MEAL. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GROW POTATOES, AND AS A MASTERGARDENER SINCE 1983, I STILL VISIT THE PLANTING GUIDES OF THE PROGRAM TO KEEP UP ON ANY NEW CHANGES.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR A 2000 LB CROP THIS YEAR AS THE GROWING PLANTS ARE DOING WELL. BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND THAT A PH OF 6.8 IS A GOOD NUMBER FOR THIS CROP. ANY QUESTIONS CONTACT ME AT [email protected].

CHEERS!!!

RICH
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Jun 1, 2016 5:59 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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You sure do have a lot of potatoes!
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Jun 1, 2016 6:14 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Jun 3, 2016 2:45 PM CST
Name: Gene Smith
Greenville, SC (Zone 7b)
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Supper last weekend, a few red Norlunds and Lancelot leeks and garlic.



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These were planted March 4th here in upstate SC. They have bloomed and I'm waiting for them to die back, then 2 weeks before I dig them. I don't really dig, but just pull back the straw and put them in a bucket for storage. 4 different varieties from Maine potato lady. I pulled the above for fresh eating and will continue to do so as needed until I harvest the whole crop.i planted about 40 lbs. and will eat from these over the summer. This plant produced an early harvest of 15 oz. from about a 2 oz. seed, so pretty good!
Couldn't really afford more mail order seeds, so I planted 20 lbs. of organic reds and golds today from Whole Foods today for fall harvest. They were about $25. Hope my soil temps don't get to warm, as I would like to keep the crop planted today into the winter. First time doing this in June, so wait and see what kind of harvest I get.
I planted all of them by brushing back the mulch, putting the seed potatoes on the ground, and covering with 18-20" of straw, works great and no digging!
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Jun 3, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Name: Gene Smith
Greenville, SC (Zone 7b)
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Supper last weekend, a few red Norlunds and Lancelot leeks and garlic.



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These were planted March 4th here in upstate SC. They have bloomed and I'm waiting for them to die back, then 2 weeks before I dig them. I don't really dig, but just pull back the straw and put them in a bucket for storage. 4 different varieties from Maine potato lady. I pulled the above for fresh eating and will continue to do so as needed until I harvest the whole crop.i planted about 40 lbs. and will eat from these over the summer. This plant produced an early harvest of 15 oz. from about a 2 oz. seed, so pretty good!
Couldn't really afford more mail order seeds, so I planted 20 lbs. of organic reds and golds today from Whole Foods today for fall harvest. They were about $25. Hope my soil temps don't get to warm, as I would like to keep the crop planted today into the winter. First time doing this in June, so wait and see what kind of harvest I get.
I planted all of them by brushing back the mulch, putting the seed potatoes on the ground, and covering with 18-20" of straw, works great and no digging!
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Jun 9, 2016 5:02 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Arkansas (Zone 8b)
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On a whim I bought some Kennebec white potatoes. They may be too old????? This is them in the paper bag.


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