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May 27, 2015 2:48 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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Years ago a gardener on this site said " flowers are beautiful no matter where they are " I believe thats right.
My control issues over flow into the gardening and it causes me problems from time to time.
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May 27, 2015 9:56 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I should have your kind of control issues Jo Ann. Every year your combinations are amazing.
My style is more like Cinta's, but I don't seem to have as great a result as she does.
I am putting together some new things and hope they work half as well as yours Jo Ann.
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May 28, 2015 2:58 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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Lynn: Dont you think its more the joy of planting and watching?
Here is my semp colection with the alpines. Many semps and succulents didnt make it thru the winter.

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May 28, 2015 8:52 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I wonder why the semps didn't make it through winter? How odd.
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May 28, 2015 9:54 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Maybe they didnt get a chance to root enough.
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May 28, 2015 12:58 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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A lot of my semps did not make it either. I think like everything else the more they breed for different color and form the further away the Semps are getting to hardiness and the strength of the semps of old. I am going to go to my old house and see if any of the old ones I had are coming up. Although I think I dug them all up and planted them at my new house before I knew that animals in my new home liked them.

This weakness of plants is happening with Hostas, Coral Bells, and many old time plants that were strong in their original state but when they start messing with the DNA they are not the plant of old.

I am using some of my old time Hostas in pots that you could leave laying on a concrete driveway all summer and all winter and they will grow like they were planted in the ground all year. If I do that to one of these new and beautiful improved Hostas they will cry and die before I went back in the house.
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May 28, 2015 1:24 PM CST
Name: Jeanie
Minnesota (Zone 4a)
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I agree
It bothers me that a lot of the old tried and true stuff is no longer commercially available.
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Old gardeners never die. They are just pruned and repotted.
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May 28, 2015 3:41 PM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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Cinta, What a great insight. I was thinking that about Peonies that dont have any scent anymore. Give me an old stand-by any day.
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May 28, 2015 5:16 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
Yes Jo Ann I have a old single blooming Mock Orange bushes that have been on the property for 40 yrs. The fragrance is wonderful. You can smell them all over the property from a distance of 50 ft. I ordered what was described as a beautiful double bloom Mock Orange. Beautiful flower not a scent to be found. It is suppose to be new and improved.

It is sad what is happening in the retail plant field. We have to hang on to the old days....old people, old equipment, old plants stand the test of time,
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May 28, 2015 5:19 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I do agree with you on some of the plants. But I sure love some of the newer varieties of delosperma and semps. The delos started blooming last month and will keep blooming until killing frost.
I don't seem to have any trouble with my semps, not even the newest cultivars coming out the last 2 or 3 years.
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May 30, 2015 6:03 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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Final planting of coleus order from RosyDawn.
some assorted in containers but lots for the Woodpile Garden

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May 30, 2015 9:01 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Very nice Jo Ann. In a few more weeks it will be amazing.
Beautiful clematis off on the right.
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May 30, 2015 9:16 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Lynn, that clematis is Dawn. Profuse bloomer and sweet color of pink.
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May 30, 2015 9:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I love this alpins Saxafraga

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May 30, 2015 9:34 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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That saxifraga really is sweet. The blooms, when viewed up close, are interesting.
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Jun 4, 2015 7:53 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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This area is shaping up nicely. The surprise is I didnt consider the penstamon in the mix. Gunna look great when all are a week older.

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Jun 4, 2015 7:58 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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I tip my hat to you.
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Jun 4, 2015 1:38 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Took these just now. The coleus were planted May 30 and the next week we got a night in the low 40's.
The light colored ones might not make it.

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Is this sedum corsicum ?
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Jun 4, 2015 8:48 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Jo Ann your semps are looking wonderful. They have sure grown.
The sedum is definitely not Sedum corsicum, that name is a synonym for Sedum dasyphyllum var. glanduliferum.
I'm not sure which one it is? It looks familiar though. It almost looks like Sedum 'Lizard'.
You 'Oddity' is really going to put out the offsets this year. Amazing.
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Jun 5, 2015 3:03 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Lynn, I had sedum Blue Spruce in the planter but when I checked my files I realized it didnt make it last winter. Compared to my list corsicum was the best guess.

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